When is the last time Mayweather or Pacquiao fought a Kirkland-level opponent?

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  • ThatDude44
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    #21
    Originally posted by Haterfree
    Another question. Can you imagine the backlash their would be against Mayweather if he fought a low skilled opponent like Kirkland? lol
    Or Rios? Or Algieri?

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    • malcolm
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      #22
      Originally posted by vorgaphe
      And Guerrero was what exactly?

      Dude Stop! Guerrero is tough as hell with a chin of stone and better defense than Kirkland.

      Kirkland is the definition of a face first brawler w/no defense. Imagine what a Felix Trinidad from back in the day would do to Kirkland. 1st Round KO!

      Kirkland is an exciting fighter with tons of heart but his reflexes are horrendous and his chin is pudding.

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        #23
        This thread is ether to all those meatheads that said this massacre saved boxing.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #24
          Originally posted by El-blanco
          Victor Ortiz has no chin and is a quitter, I'd also argue he's accomplished less than James. Algieri was an embarrassment in his fight with PAC.
          I'll go with this.

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          • Twako
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            #25
            Originally posted by malcolm
            Dude Stop! Guerrero is tough as hell with a chin of stone and better defense than Kirkland.

            Kirkland is the definition of a face first brawler w/no defense. Imagine what a Felix Trinidad from back in the day would do to Kirkland. 1st Round KO!

            Kirkland is an exciting fighter with tons of heart but his reflexes are horrendous and his chin is pudding.
            yet you compare kirkland to algieri?

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            • jas
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              #26
              A biased Floyd fan discrediting the resume of one of Floyd's best wins

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                #27
                Originally posted by malcolm
                Dude Stop! Guerrero is tough as hell with a chin of stone and better defense than Kirkland.

                Kirkland is the definition of a face first brawler w/no defense. Imagine what a Felix Trinidad from back in the day would do to Kirkland. 1st Round KO!

                Kirkland is an exciting fighter with tons of heart but his reflexes are horrendous and his chin is pudding.
                I was responding to someone who was asking when Floyd last fought a "low skilled fighter". That Guerrero's best attribute you can mention is his chin tells me all I need.

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                • deathofaclown
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                  #28
                  I think even Kirkland is a worse opponent than Ortiz. Maybe at present they're both bad but you cant judge fights on hindsight.

                  At the time of Floyd v Ortiz, Ortiz had just won the WBC title off an undefeated Berto who himself was kind of hyped, was an active fighter and the only real loss on his record was to Maidana. At the time of the fight, it wasn't that bad at all.

                  Kirkland hadn't fought for 18 months and has been stopped by a guy with Malignaggi's power, amongst other things.

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                    #29
                    Ortiz is a way better boxer than Kirkland Kirkland just has more heart, determination and will.

                    Kirkland is not better than the Ghost. Stop it. Algeri is the closest but I still think he's better than Kirkland.

                    Looking back on their resumes, my answer is

                    Floyd vs Baldomir

                    Pac vs Velasquez

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                    • hhs661
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                      #30
                      Floyd with Angel Manfredy, Manny with David Diaz

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