[SMH] Why is Andre Ward excluded from Cliff Rold's P4P list?

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  • joesaiditstrue
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    #21
    Originally posted by Joshua Child
    What upset me more about that list is how out of whack it is. This is what mine probably looks like right now.

    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Wladamir Klinchko
    3. Guillermo Rigondeaux
    3. Roman Gonzalez
    5. Sergey Kovalev
    6. Manny Pacquiao
    7. Timothy Bradley
    8. Carl Froch
    9. Juan Manuel Marquez
    10. Gennady Golovkin
    11. Terrence Crawford
    what's your criteria? rigo at #3 is ridiculous

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    • bojangles1987
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      #22
      Because he hasn't had a significant win in nearly 4 years and hasn't fought at all in a year and a half. He should be off P4P lists.

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      • LacedUp
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        #23
        Crawford should be there and I suspect he will next time.

        Ward would also enter when he fights again, but doesn't deserve a spot over fighters who actually fight.

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        • New England
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          #24
          as long as he looks dominant in his comeback fight, i'll have him top 5.

          as of right now, he's been too inactive to stay ranked.


          i will say this:
          ward's hands and shoulders needed to heal. the only thing that can facilitate that is several months / years without a pro fight in a 10 oz glove.


          ali, robinson, louis, all took time off from fighting for one reason or another.


          canastota.
          i'm already the best SMW of this generation. you have idiots who argue for froch, but they closed their eyes while i pounded on him and kessler.

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          • deathofaclown
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            #25
            Because until he steps back in the right for his upcoming fight, he's just a commentator.

            At this present time you might as well put Max Kellerman in the p4p list.

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            • Mr. Philadel
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              #26
              Ward is on my p4p list!!!...don't care how long he's been inactive...MARK MY WORDS!!...he will snatch BOTH Krusher and GGG's 0....mark that down!!!

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              • Weebler I
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                #27
                Rold is actually a big Ward fan, he had him on there as long as he could.

                Originally posted by Mr. Philadel
                Ward is on my p4p list!!!...don't care how long he's been inactive...MARK MY WORDS!!...he will snatch BOTH Krusher and GGG's 0....mark that down!!!
                Golovkin maybe, but not Kovalev.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by In Motion
                  Here is a link to Cliff Rold of Boxing Scene's P4P list. Can you spot what's wrong with it? http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=pound

                  Here's the order of his list.

                  1. Mayweather (justified)
                  2. Roman Gonzalez (way too high considering lack of comp)
                  3. Pacquiao (what a joke being this high up)
                  4. Rigo (justified)
                  5. Bradley (or nah)
                  6. Marquez (or nah)
                  7. Froch (what a joke, Froch is garbage)
                  8. Kovalev (not justified unless he beats A. Stevenson)
                  9. Estrada (whatever)
                  10. Klitschko (somewhat justified)

                  Where on Earth is Andre Ward? Where's Terrance Crawford? Danny Garcia? This looks like a Top Rank shill's P4P list. Something Ronnie Nathanielz or Steve Kim would write.
                  I agree that #2 is too high but I would say that Gonzalez competiton is pretty good.

                  He's been champion a long time and has beaten quite a few good fighters.

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                  • Chrismart
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                    #29
                    I can understand why he's not on the list. He's been dropped from lots of P4P lists due to inactivity. He hasn't fought for 18 months and has only fought twice since beating Froch in 20011.

                    Once he's back in the ring again, he will right back up there.

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                    • bigdlb12
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                      #30
                      not sure why Marquez is still up there, guy has fought in a year, 5.17.14 was his last fight

                      Really, no Canelo? Garcia? Khan? Santa Cruz? GGG? Crawford? Not saying all these are top 10 P4P,
                      but Froch, should not be on the list, Marquez hasnt done anything in a year, Pac is too high up, Estrada, Rigo and Gonzalez still need to show more

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