Fixing Boxing Scoring Once and For All

[ADP02]

It's worth pointing out that Floyd didn't win because of Compubox. It only backed up what the judges thought.

And lol @ using slow motion replays in boxing.

Here Castillo had connected more than Floyd threw. Yet I'm sure that you will look at this differently.

[saintpat]

This doesn't go far enough.

First of all, no more live judging.

EVERY fight needs to be reviewed in SUPER SLOW MOTION, frame by frame ... including 4-round club fights. Commissions will require all dusty fight clubs in the low minors to install high-end, high-res HD cameras from at least six angles, including overhead.

At the conclusion of every card, all digital recordings will be sent to a super-secret location where a panel of experts will review each frame-by-frame -- no less than a dozen experts will look at each and every microsecond of every round of every fight from each camera angle, and each reviewer will view the material no less than a dozen times.

At the end, they will render a decision, which will be announced no less than 9 months after the bout has taken place ... and only then, if their verdict stands up to several rounds of appeals over the next 18 months, will the result be official.

[Rockin']

the OP didnt fully think this through.

you realize every fighter that loses a decision would appeal.

and they would. and then appeal the appeal....

It is not a waste of time, the only waste of time is you, whining and moaning here in the forums without something to contribute about for the improvement of the sport. .

wining and moaning.... LOL. Than I will change my 'tone' for you. If you had something to contribute than you would be in the sport instead of posing on a computer telling the professionals how they should run their sport.

The proposal, is the only way to get accurate calls. You can never get accurate calls by just using your eyes in LIVE combat because judges or we an audience can only see what's in front of him and the other angle which is begging to be seen can never be seen clearly by the naked eye..

LOL, yeah the naked eye can't see ****. I don't know how sports survived before the creation of the instant replay.

In replay everything is seen, --every angle is exposed, thus, every punch is seen connected or not.

3 judges have 3 angels, it's been good enough for 150 years or so and it will be fine for 150 more.

--I am a real fan of the sweet science, apparently, a dying breed in this sport.

a fan.... of the sweet science.... that's precious:wank:

This thread is all about improving the sport of boxing we love, and your comment is totally out of place and nonsensical, does not help for the betterment of the sport at all.

No matter what happens in a fight people are going to ***** about one thing or another. You will never be able to make everybody happy and you would be a fool to change the sport in an attempt to passify a bunch of cry babies (who probably don't know wtf they are crying about to begin with)

This doesn't go far enough.

First of all, no more live judging.

EVERY fight needs to be reviewed in SUPER SLOW MOTION, frame by frame ... including 4-round club fights. Commissions will require all dusty fight clubs in the low minors to install high-end, high-res HD cameras from at least six angles, including overhead.

At the conclusion of every card, all digital recordings will be sent to a super-secret location where a panel of experts will review each frame-by-frame -- no less than a dozen experts will look at each and every microsecond of every round of every fight from each camera angle, and each reviewer will view the material no less than a dozen times.

At the end, they will render a decision, which will be announced no less than 9 months after the bout has taken place ... and only then, if their verdict stands up to several rounds of appeals over the next 18 months, will the result be official.

Great Post there saint pat.


INSTANT REPLAY"peeleft:

[big_james10]

In light of the recent superdud(superfight) we had earlier courtesy of shouldergate (whether it's true or not, it's already frigging all over the internet), and the proliferation of rumors that pacquiao had indeed won in slow-mo replays because the compubox boys didn't do a good job at it and judges were probably too old to see the super fast clean punching connects. I think it's high-time to upgrade our boxing scoring tradition. I mean, every sport had already upgraded their system, i.e. --In NBA basketball, they have already welcomed replay system and it tremendously helped rescue those referee decisions that might otherwise turn into big controversy after the game.

What I'm proposing is, unlike in NBA where replay system is sometimes been criticized because it slows the game down and steal some of those precious momentum that the other team have built upon; --our own replay system in boxing would be a lot better since it should only be done only when there's a formal complaint on the other side of the team; and, only when the fight is over and done with, so no interruptions on the actual fight whatsoever.

It goes like this: If the complaining team submitted a formal request on boxing commission within an allowable period after the fight. Then, the Commission of Boxing will act as a Supreme Court of some sort and will deligate or have a ready panel of trusted representatives assembled that will review the fight in a slow-motion replay punch by punch manner. The result will be released as soon as possible, most preferrably the day after the fight night. The decision of the Commission will be final, no appeal is ever allowed again.


IMO, the advantages of allowing slow-motion replay as part of the decision process greatly outweight the disadvantages if theres any, and I will attempt to list some of it on top of my head:

1. Peace of mind: Obviously will eliminate 99.9 percent of the doubters, mockers, whinners and every sort of lunacy and controversy that has plagued boxing throughout the years. Those .1 percent, we can't do anything about so let them be, because after all, these are the guys that still believes that Elvis and Kennedy still lives and you can't ever convince them otherwise.

2. It will greatly encourage both fighters to practice the real modern day sweet science which is: "hit and not get hit and be in position to hit again." this is important, because the modern day sweet science discourages those hit and runners/huggers which are the remnants of old traditional sweet science practitioners which is: "hit and not get hit only", which have evidently contributed greatly in hurting the business of boxing as a whole due to the casual fans perception of that style as boring and yet still winning. Casual fans don't understand this so called traditional sweet science which the purists is so fond of, I'm not saying it's time to phase it out, but, instead, it's time to upgrade it, make it better and make it closely appealing to what the casual fans envisioned it to be. It is very important, because casual fans is the engine of the sport, they dictate the direction of where the business or boxing is headed. You give them what they want, and you will reap what you sow.

3. Obviously, fighters will be forced to fight very clean and avoid foul plays knowing that their performance will be re-evaluated later on.

4. Renewed and reinvigorated interest by the former, present and new boxing fans, in knowing that boxing, at last, has gain it's credibility again.

5. And I feel there's many many more advantages to it. feel free to add some.

Now, having said this, let our superdud be the final example of this antiquated traditional scoring method, and let's move on to the better future.

This post is the biggest crock of s...t written about this fight yet !

No fan of #48 has ever complained about Compubox scoring one of #48's fight's until now.

You fans of #48 can go on and on with this nonsense about how Pacquaio won. It still won't make it true, officially or unofficially.

[48cantCstraight]

You realize every ***in fight would get appealed right? Every fight (except ko's) would be decided 24 hours after it takes place. Kind of takes the luster away from a live sporting event.

[brickcityboxing]

You should do a slow motion replay in your head when you think of making a post like this and when you are done with that if you still feel like you should make the post... still don't do it