Everyone complains about hugging and holding in the ring...

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  • extracurRICular
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    #51
    Originally posted by Rockin'
    Everyone complains about hugging and holding in the ring...

    they also complained about Chris Byrd, a defensive genius who rarely clinched.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #52
      I just will never get why people feel sorry for inferior fighters, either you can take care of business in the ring or you can't.

      I don't know how many totally clean matches of boxing I have watched in the last two decades but none stick out.

      Getting dirty is part of boxing, that is the nature of the game. They are fighting **** is going to happen, a fighter can either let **** go down or try and do something about it. I always want to see a guy try and do something about it.

      That was what made Wlad-Povetkin so bad for example, Wlad held a lot but Povetkin both allowed it to happen and failed to work while wildly charging in basically forcing a clinch.

      Also if a guy is reaching to clinch like Wlad does a bunch why can't guy figure that out and come in with an uppercut. If a guy is reaching out to grab you they are super vulnerable, it is not like that can't be worked on in the gym.

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      • -Kev-
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        #53
        Pacquiao can't fight inside to save his life. He doesn't know how to react to getting held, he immediately looks at the ref for help, doesn't even attempt at punching. This is so obvious and Floyd took advantage of this flaw. When ever Pac got too close, he tied him up and people didn't like this. Try tying up Mayweather and see what happens. Maidana tried buy Mayweather pushed him off most times, or slithered away. Pac can't do this.

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        • MindBat
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          #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Its because a lot of fighters do not have any skill fighting on the inside. They get marketed as great fighters because of KO's and power when in reality they are not very good in a number of areas.
          Pretty much. When a fighter can work on the inside, and use known boxing skills such as clinching, and smothering, basically "tying them up" to keep his opponent from attacking, that's an intelligent fighter.

          But like you stated, most fighters are limited. They're trained to swing wildly from the outside, and when they get inside, they forget that defense is also part of game which will allow them to continue fighting and improving their chances of winning.

          Usually when fighters clinch the ref steps in to break them up so that the action can continue.

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          • QuebecSTAR2
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            #55
            Originally posted by Marcello
            Boxing should not have as much holding as the mma does.
            dis boxing below!

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            • -Kev-
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              #56
              Originally posted by QuebecSTAR2
              dis boxing below!

              Let me guess, you googled "monkeys hugging" and uploaded a picture of your findings to indicate that black people are monkeys and they like to hold and hug in boxing. SMH, this type of crap will not get your worthless self banned though, amazingly.

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              • NEETzsche
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                #57
                see golovkin-murray

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                • Real King Kong
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                  #58
                  Props to fighters like micky ward...the man simply refused to be held

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                  • QuebecSTAR2
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    Let me guess, you googled "monkeys hugging" and uploaded a picture of your findings to indicate that black people are monkeys and they like to hold and hug in boxing. SMH, this type of crap will not get your worthless self banned though, amazingly.

                    stop pulling the race card.
                    it just a funny pic, why u have to bring race into it.
                    so typical!

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                    • The Gambler1981
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by QuebecSTAR2
                      stop pulling the race card.
                      it just a funny pic, why u have to bring race into it.
                      so typical!
                      What exactly is funny about that picture?

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