NSAC Commisioner Bill Brady Resigns After Pacquiao Incident.

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #171
    Originally posted by madsweeney
    How old was he? Were any of them nearly as skilled as Floyd? Injury and winning is doable against a lesser opponent When your opponent is at least as good as you (and bigger than you) an injury can very well turn the tables
    Castillo 1 was Floyd's first fight at LW. Castillo was bigger and the recognized #1 LW in the world at the time.

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    • V.WEBB
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      #172
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      We had no medical information, no MRIs, no documents," said Travis Tygart, who heads the USADA. "It was not an anti-doping issue. The real question is why his camp checked `no' on the disclosure. Either they made a terrible mistake to not follow the rules or they were trying not to give information to the other side. I'm not sure there's a middle ground."
      Well. There's that.

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        #173
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        We had no medical information, no MRIs, no documents," said Travis Tygart, who heads the USADA. "It was not an anti-doping issue. The real question is why his camp checked `no' on the disclosure. Either they made a terrible mistake to not follow the rules or they were trying not to give information to the other side. I'm not sure there's a middle ground."
        Unfortunately, this is the truth of the matter. Injury or no, Pac's team shot themselves in the foot by checking no.

        My only guess is that they felt it was fine going into the fight, wether or not he hurt it during the fight or is just using it as an excuse is not nearly as clear to determine.

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          #174
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          No Floyd fan posted the bolded.

          You're a fucking liar. Roach never asked about the shoulder.

          You can keep deflecting and trying to make this about Floyd/Castillo but its about Manny lying about his shoulder because he got beat. No evidence prior to the fight that Manny's shoulder was hurt and no evidence during the fight that the shoulder prevented him from throwing right hands.

          Floyd prevented him by continually jabbing him in his face.
          USADA made sure that it was on the up and up. That is what I meant.

          Roach did say "Are you fine" or something like that. So no, I didn't lie.

          Everyone from USADA and even the commission have admitted that the shoulder injury was brought up BEFORE the fight. Again, just pretend it was Floyd, and that fog that you have will all be cleared up.



          "USADA spoke to Mannys doctors twice, investigated, and confirmed in writing that the proposed treatments, if used, were completely allowed."

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            #175
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            We had no medical information, no MRIs, no documents," said Travis Tygart, who heads the USADA. "It was not an anti-doping issue. The real question is why his camp checked `no' on the disclosure. Either they made a terrible mistake to not follow the rules or they were trying not to give information to the other side. I'm not sure there's a middle ground."
            It's not an anti doping issue. I mean who does dumb **** like this.

            Hey, I need a haircut, let me alert AAA. I got a fire in my house, I'm gonna call 411 to get info how to put it out.

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            • madsweeney
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              #176
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Castillo 1 was Floyd's first fight at LW. Castillo was bigger and the recognized #1 LW in the world at the time.
              And many argue he lost the fight in large due to the injury. Floyd did have a significant skill gap in his favor as well. My point is, Pac potentially fought with an injury against a good fighter, he fought with the injury (allegedly) against the best boxer of our era. Just another disadvantage for Pac, pretty uphill battle if you ask me.

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                #177
                Originally posted by ADP02
                USADA made sure that it was on the up and up. That is what I meant.

                Roach did say "Are you fine" or something like that. So no, I didn't lie.

                Everyone from USADA and even the commission have admitted that the shoulder injury was brought up. Again, just pretend it was Floyd, and that fog that you have will all be cleared up.



                "USADA spoke to Mannys doctors twice, investigated, and confirmed in writing that the proposed treatments, if used, were completely allowed."
                They confirmed the treatments were allowed, not that there was an injury. Are you ******ed?

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by madsweeney
                  And many argue he lost the fight in large due to the injury. Floyd did have a significant skill gap in his favor as well. My point is, Pac potentially fought with an injury against a good fighter, he fought with the injury (allegedly) against the best boxer of our era. Just another disadvantage for Pac, pretty uphill battle if you ask me.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by lacson
                      No one was hiding the injury, Koncz the idiot ticked off the wrong box.

                      How can they try to hide the injury if:
                      1. They put all the pain medications being used in the form.
                      2. They told USADA and got permission to use the pain meds in training and assumed at the fight.
                      3. They asked for the pain shot before the fight.

                      NSAC still learned the injury before the actual fight. They needed to make the decision to cancel or let the guy fight with his shots. They did say if they knew the day before he would have been allowed. So what's the difference if they said yes yesterday or today. It just does not make sense. Someone dropped the ball in the biggest fight.
                      So exactly when did Team Excusiao inform the NSAC of the "injury"?

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