Comments Thread For: Lara: I'll Fight GGG, Canelo Fights Cotto - Winners Meet!

[The Big Dunn]

Actually that shows HBO is willing to work with Al Haymon. We haven't seen Haymon willing to work with HBO though. Like I said there have been a couple of opportunities at least for Haymon fighters to fight good names on HBO and they passed.

To me this just seems like more talk from DeCubas. He's a **** talker, talks all types of crazy **** on social networks. When he translates he says **** that his fighters don't even come close to saying lol. He's a bull****ter, he's trying to get his guys names out there. Is this a real offer, does team Lara really want to fight Golovkin on HBO? I'm skeptical. I don't doubt LARA the fighter isn't willing, I think he's a warrior in the sense he'll fight the best, he's from Cuba that's all they know (best fighting the best) so I'm sure it's no problem for him, his handlers though...I'm not sold. After Lara & GGG's upcoming fights, I want to see if there is real communication, real offers being made, not twitter talk.

what. GTFO. If I say I will only work with you if you suck my ****, knowing you will not do that, equates to me not working with you at all.

HBO wants to pay Haymon fighters much less than they will earn everywhere else. If they matched purses, I'm sure they'd appear on HBO. Herschman , as he did when he ran SHO, wants low cost fights.

You last pargraph makes a lot of good points.

[The Big Dunn]

Yes, but the Nfl has made it easier for these QBs to win by making it a much more offensive game. They know a more offensive game draws more eyeballs.
The NBA has made the game more offensive. Baseball is attempting to do the same. All in an effort to make their sport more entertaining.

Boxing does the same. They feature guys people want to see. It's no just about winning. Look at Soto Karass. Dude lost most of his major fights but guy was invited back constantly because he entertained and out up good fights. Guys like Maidana get opportunities because the entertain, not necessarily winning every fight.
Do they have to win a few? Of course they can't lose every time, but more important in boxing now is how you look when you lose. You know this just as well as I.

Lara wants his shot. Great, so do many others. He can earn his shot fighting other top contenders and making HBO want to put on his fight.

I agreed with you. But winning is still what matters. If they don't win, they don't make playoffs or super bowl.

As for boxing, you are making my point. HBO/TR are giving opportunities to losers because they "lost good". The result of this practice-horribly boring mismatches where Manny fights Rios where Rios has no chance to win.

GGG/Lara is a fight where we expect GGG to win but Lara has the skills to beat him. Why would I want to see GGG/Lee where Lee has absolutely no chance to win but the fight will be exciting because Lee lacks professional skills in many areas.

HBO doesn't want guys who can beat GGG, they want guys who will lose great. Why do you as a fan accept this? Why do you and Devel916 support that? wouldn't you rather see a guy who has a chance to win?

doesn't the sport have more integrity when an opponent has a chance to win, even if that victory is achieved in a way you as a fan don't necessarily like?

[From Russia]

Erislandy "The Twitter Warrior" Lara needs to slow down.

He types pretty tough, tweets a load of *****, but when it the time comes to own up, he takes flight.

Yeah, he had a great opportunity to improve his career in Canelo fight and instead of letting his hands go and beating Alvarez impressively, he choosed to run and throw like 10 punches each round. That was extemely ******...

[Eff Pandas]

Oscar says thats sounds good to him, winners meet....in May 2017.

[ИATAS]

what. GTFO. If I say I will only work with you if you suck my ****, knowing you will not do that, equates to me not working with you at all.

HBO wants to pay Haymon fighters much less than they will earn everywhere else. If they matched purses, I'm sure they'd appear on HBO. Herschman , as he did when he ran SHO, wants low cost fights.

Where is the evidence of this? The only thing I can think of is the Stevenson vs Kovalev deal, where HBO didn't want to match Stevensons ridiculously high purse for a tune up fight.

Who is to say someone like Lara would make way less fighting on HBO anyways? I mean how much is Lara getting fighting Ishe Smith and Delvin Rodriguez? Plus you factor in whats better for your career. Wouldnt taking a little less money for a huge opportunity be better than taking a little more money for a fight no one cares about?

You last pargraph makes a lot of good points.

That's what a lot people on NSB don't realize. Who is doing the talking? I never know if a Lara article where he is quoted is actually from Lara or DeCubas, usually because they don't really list the source or its a press release. Usually any of the **** talking, over the top talk is decubas, Lara isn't really a **** talker. Its the same thing when Golovkins trainer talks ****, says he'll fight and beat anyone up to 175. It's hyperbole. Talk is just that. What concerns me is action. Are there any real offers on the table?

[Deevel916]

They don't need personality. They need HBO to match them with competitive fighters that will go all out to win. Rigo v Donaire was exciting. Lara v Angulo was exciting.

SO it still comes back to the competitive spirit of the individual fighter. Some guys only show it when they have an easy win in front of them because they are too afraid to risk everything to win.

If you can only entertain with a certain type of opponent, than you are not entertaining. Canelo this weekend is the perfect example. Gatti on the other hand entertained regardless of who he was in with.

Do we really care that he did that to Kirkland when he never tried to do it against Floyd for fear of getting Ko'd.

Entertainment is not just the ability to get KO's.

Feared getting KO'd by Floyd? LOL.

Canelo fought like that against Kirkland because Kirkland came in and jumped all over him with heavy bombs. He knew that he had to take Kirland out. Floyd on the other hand doesn't fight you. He waits to capitalize off of your mistakes and counters. Canelo's game plan for Floyd was all wrong. He tried to box him which was not going to be successful for him.

[The Big Dunn]

Where is the evidence of this? The only thing I can think of is the Stevenson vs Kovalev deal, where HBO didn't want to match Stevensons ridiculously high purse for a tune up fight.

Who is to say someone like Lara would make way less fighting on HBO anyways? I mean how much is Lara getting fighting Ishe Smith and Delvin Rodriguez? Plus you factor in whats better for your career. Wouldnt taking a little less money for a huge opportunity be better than taking a little more money for a fight no one cares about?




That's what a lot people on NSB don't realize. Who is doing the talking? I never know if a Lara article where he is quoted is actually from Lara or DeCubas, usually because they don't really list the source or its a press release. Usually any of the **** talking, over the top talk is decubas, Lara isn't really a **** talker. Its the same thing when Golovkins trainer talks ****, says he'll fight and beat anyone up to 175. It's hyperbole. Talk is just that. What concerns me is action. Are there any real offers on the table?

Herschman stated this policy. It is also well known he likes to do more with less. HBO was lowering its boxing budget when he got job. They also fired Kerry Davis primarily because he was Haymon's contact.

Yes, Lara should take less t fight GGG. I would agree with that. I hope HBO would not block this fight. Maybe as PBP suggested, Monroe is a tune up for Lara.

[OnePunch]

If ggg beats Lara then I will believe the hype.

no you wont. You'll just come up with another excuse

[The Big Dunn]

Feared getting KO'd by Floyd? LOL.

Canelo fought like that against Kirkland because Kirkland came in and jumped all over him with heavy bombs. He knew that he had to take Kirland out. Floyd on the other hand doesn't fight you. He waits to capitalize off of your mistakes and counters. Canelo's game plan for Floyd was all wrong. He tried to box him which was not going to be successful for him.

Why else would he stop punching? It's easy to laugh at, but Canelo's performance was embarrassing.

Are you saying Canelo isn't entertaining? Kirkland was because he is a "great loser" while Canelo "lost bad".

You illustrate my point exactly-put Canelo in with a guy he can easily beat and he takes chances and fights more fan friendly. In with Floyd where he needs to take chances to give himself the best chance to win- he doesn't because he will lose in a more exciting way. Instead, he takes the easy way out and loses via shutout.

This is why GGG should fight Lara. His all out style is vulnerable against Lara's skillset, a mistake may result in a cut, closed eye, KD, etc., making a win much more difficult-which makes the fight truly exciting. One sided KO's are not exciting.

Fans of GGG should not want HBO to protect him from those opponents who use his aggressiveness against him. If you are ok with brawlers making an ugly fight in pursuit of victory, you should be ok if boxers do their version of the same thing.

[OnePunch]

Monroe is a tuneup for Lara. This fight will happen.

Haymon has no other options for Lara.

LOL at the idea that anyone needs a "tuneup" to face Lara

thanks for the laugh........