Max Kellerman has sold his soul...

[big_james10]

You didn't even read the post.
I know that, I am talking about NSAC responsibility read it carefully, many fighters dont check injured and receive pain killers before fights.

If Pacs team admit he was injured two hours before the fight its the NSAC commission responsibility to cancel the fight or give the pain meds, they opted not to give him the shot and let an injured fighter in the ring.

If they gave Pac the pain killers and let the fight go on, than its all on Pac and his team, but them knowing that Pac was injured two hours before the fight and still letting him in the ring and without pain killers makes their case iffy and cancels it out.

Seems the NSAC boss didn't want to get blamed if the pulled the fight two hours before, so he should have just gave the pain shot and dealt with team pacquiao later.

So morally and ethically he has blame on his shoulders as well. The responsibility of a commission is to look out for the fighters no matter what. I guarantee Larry Hazard would not allow a fighter to go in no matter how big the fight was.

Excuses! Excuses!

You are saying that the NSAC should have known that Pacquaio was too motherf.....ing ****** to inform them in advance that he supposedly had a shoulder injury; and (just list dumba.ss Max Kellerman stated) the NSAC should have given Pacquaio whatever the hell he wanted simply because this was the biggest fight in history.

What a crock of s...t!

[Cinci Champ]

You didn't even read the post.
I know that, I am talking about NSAC responsibility read it carefully, many fighters dont check injured and receive pain killers before fights.

If Pacs team admit he was injured two hours before the fight its the NSAC commission responsibility to cancel the fight or give the pain meds, they opted not to give him the shot and let an injured fighter in the ring.

If they gave Pac the pain killers and let the fight go on, than its all on Pac and his team, but them knowing that Pac was injured two hours before the fight and still letting him in the ring and without pain killers makes their case iffy and cancels it out.

Seems the NSAC boss didn't want to get blamed if the pulled the fight two hours before, so he should have just gave the pain shot and dealt with team pacquiao later.

So morally and ethically he has blame on his shoulders as well. The responsibility of a commission is to look out for the fighters no matter what. I guarantee Larry Hazard would not allow a fighter to go in no matter how big the fight was.

thats cause all doctors said he could still fight lol nice try tho

[big_james10]

This is pretty much the way I see it too. The leverage that Floyd will have after his 49th will be insane imo. Dont be fooled by Floyd saying his last fight is in september. Floyd will go for 50-0-0 in May 2016 for an enormous payday.

Floyd is going to make somewhere between $200 and $300 million for the Pacquaio fight. If he goes for #50 in a rematch against Pacquiao, Al Haymon will probably find a way to make sure Mayweather earns $300 to $400 million for the rematch. There is no f'ing way Floyd will turn that down.

[LA_2_Vegas]

This is pretty much the way I see it too. The leverage that Floyd will have after his 49th will be insane imo. Dont be fooled by Floyd saying his last fight is in september. Floyd will go for 50-0-0 in May 2016 for an enormous payday.

I think it will depend on whether or not the new arena is really completed by the time he usually fights in May. Never know with construction, so we may see his schedule moved around a little if this is the fight they plan to inaugurate that venue with. I drove passed it last week and they are about going to seal up the exterior soon it looks like - the layout of the rows are done (no seats yet), you could see the space for luxury boxes, etc. They have moved fast. It'll all be up to Floyd like you guys are saying.

Both SHO and HBO are vying for that 50-0 fight - we might even look at last weeks fight as an audition from both - like many pointed out Lampley started to criticize Pac hard, doing a complete reversal of how they normally treat him. So we will probably hear from weird narratives out of both sides in the next couple months. SHO has done well for Floyd but I can't think of a fight they could deliver that would be as lucrative as a Pac rematch, Cotto/Canelo winner , etc. Probably will be contingent on HBO playing ball with Haymon on other fights too.. and that's the IN Haymon would love and would take.

[Robbie Barrett]

Go listen to Kellermans ESPN radio show him and Lampley shit all over him. They were talking about how they'd end up having to hype a Mayweather 50th fight Pacquiao rematch and Lampley said he wasn't allowed to tell fans what he thought (Mayweather would easily win) because of his job. HBO making them hype their fighters.

[mathed]

Someone must've sat him down after the post fight PAC interview and let him know where his bread gets buttered... The BS he was spewing prior to the Canelo vs Kirkalnd fight was at times delusional and other times flat out lies...

"PAC won 4 rounds on some peoples cards with one arm with two imagine what he could've done"

"If you want to blame anyone blame the NSAC... Now all of the sudden they want to follow the rules. That wasn't in line with the spirit of the event" (so bend the rules for PAC max?)

"Had PAC postponed the fight he would've been out for at least 12 months who knows if Floyd would would still be fighting?"
(It was an old injury that he's been fighting with for years if he re aggravated it ... Some rest would've had him ready for September without surgery)

I'm sure someone will post the link but seriously Max normally is the most level headed on HBO but This is the first time I honestly can say I think ... That's over with. Max has compromised the only thing that made him a decent analyst...

Setting up the rematch man...this entire thing was a sham. You wanna know what Pac and Floyd discussed in his hotel room? They were talking about how to make the most money off of the fans. Phuck em both.

[hectari]

Excuses! Excuses!

You are saying that the NSAC should have known that Pacquaio was too motherf.....ing ****** to inform them in advance that he supposedly had a shoulder injury; and (just list dumba.ss Max Kellerman stated) the NSAC should have given Pacquaio whatever the hell he wanted simply because this was the biggest fight in history.

What a crock of s...t!

The problem with you is you are taking it as if Im discrediting Floyds win, nobody is, this isn't about who won or Pac not being 100 percent and making an excuse for him. I personally feel Floyd beats him either way.

This is about the situation between the NSAC and team Pac. If Pac said he was injured two hours before the fight, it is their duty to cancel the fight or just give him the LEGAL pain killers, USADA vouched for it, so they screwed up by letting an injured man in the ring and without the pain shot he requested and asked for before.

If they were going to let the fight go on regardless why not give the pain shot? USADA who was doing the drug testing even vouched for them.

Do you now see what I am saying?

This is where NSAC screwed themselves over in this lawsuit, if they just gave Pac the shot, they could sue him after for lying, both are in the wrong now, but now NSAC has to bare the burden of responsibility for allowing Pac to go in the ring injured and not giving him the shot even after USADA said it was okay and they said he was using it in camp.

The NSAC allowed the fight to go on because of the magnitude. If they allowed it why not give the pain shot or cancel it. Those are the two options they had, and instead they allowed the man to go in without the shot. And didnt want to be the ones to blame, if the fight wasn't a big fight they would have pulled the plug, but now they are shouldering all the blame to team Pac. That would only work if they gave him the pain shot.

No excuses this has nothing to do with who wins or loses, im talking about the situation.

[mathed]

Go listen to Kellermans ESPN radio show him and Lampley shit all over him. They were talking about how they'd end up having to hype a Mayweather 50th fight Pacquiao rematch and Lampley said he wasn't allowed to tell fans what he thought (Mayweather would easily win) because of his job. HBO making them hype their fighters.

I know, such a shame, and to think these guys are supposed to hype boxers up as part of their jobs...WTF?

[hectari]

thats cause all doctors said he could still fight lol nice try tho

Nice try what? Floyd beats Pac either way, why do you guys think people are discrediting Floyd, this has nothing to do with Floyd.

Its about NSAC incompetence in handling this situation. Max made a great point about the commission responsibility. Also to point out fighters who are not injured have been approved for pain killers before as a precaution, Floyd and Oscar have both taken them in their hands before big fights. If Pac said he was injured they should have either gave the legal pain shot, or canceled the fight, instead they allowed a man who claimed to be injured into the ring.


USADA approved the shot, told NSAC it was okay that team Pacquiao was using it during camp.


If they gave the pain shot, than NSAC has no guilt or burden, it would be all on Pacquiao and his team for lying about the injury. And after the fight NSAC would be in the right for suing them and fining them.


Has nothing to do with Floyd, nobody is discrediting Floyds win.

[Robbie Barrett]

I know, such a shame, and to think these guys are supposed to hype boxers up as part of their jobs...WTF?

No one of them supposed to be a commentator and one an analyst, it's the promoter's job to promote fighters.