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  • Russian Crushin
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    #101
    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
    4:19, Cotto had quite a bit of success actually.

    With hitting him when his head was extremely low? People keep should clips when a fighter who ducks extremely low gets hit when he already has his head up. Lets see what you're suppose to hit when the head is at that low point

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      #102
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      So turning your head should be allowed. Because you have to catch a guy who turns his back, when he's turning back around?

      The whole point is when at the point of ducking that low, there is nothing to hit but the back of the head.
      Yeah but nobody is maintaining that position for 15 seconds. You're assuming that he's just sitting there crouched and unhittable for an extended period of time.

      It's a quick, duck, pivot and reposition.

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      • Russian Crushin
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        #103
        Originally posted by PBP
        Yeah but nobody is maintaining that position for 15 seconds. You're assuming that he's just sitting there crouched and unhittable for an extended period of time.

        It's a quick, duck, pivot and reposition.
        And if it was "quick, turn head/body, pivot and reposition", a DQ would be handed within a round.

        This for example is a very prolonged bend. What could Donaire hit with him like that except illegal parts of the head?

        Last edited by Russian Crushin; 05-09-2015, 06:39 PM.

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #104
          Originally posted by Russian Crushin
          With hitting him when his head was extremely low? People keep should clips when a fighter who ducks extremely low gets hit when he already has his head up. Lets see what you're suppose to hit when the head is at that low point
          It can be neutralized if you step back, possess an actual jab or attempt to time it, even if it means hitting your opponent behind the head. Look at the first gif on Larry's sig, did Pacquiao throw solid jabs, why didn't he move more in line to Mayweather to let punches off? It's annoying you because you think it's impossible to deal with when it's not.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            And if it was "quick, turn head/body, pivot and reposition", a DQ would be handed within a round.
            But it's not. And nobody does that.

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            • Russian Crushin
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              #106
              Originally posted by PBP
              But it's not. And nobody does that.
              Because a ref wont allow it and a fighter would be DQ'd, but what rule would it be breaking?

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #107
                You honestly think Bradley bending below the waist would have worked against Mayweather? Mayweather has more options than Pacquiao, an actual jab; variations of it actually, jab to the body, short lead left hook as well as his right hand.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                  Because a ref wont allow it and a fighter would be DQ'd, but what rule would it be breaking?
                  The ref enforces the rules. He's not taking points for ducking a punch. It's common sense.

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                  • Pretty Boy32
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                    #109
                    now the pacfans are claiming Floyd defence is illegal

                    This is amazing

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                    • Russian Crushin
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
                      It can be neutralized if you step back, possess an actual jab or attempt to time it, even if it means hitting your opponent behind the head. Look at the first gif on Larry's sig, did Pacquiao throw solid jabs, why didn't he move more in line to Mayweather to let punches off? It's annoying you because you think it's impossible to deal with when it's not.
                      But thats against the rules. The whole point is that there has be be a hittable target

                      Its not that its impossible to deal with, its that it's not a fair move, just like turning your head

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