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  • #41
    Originally posted by pnksntdead View Post
    Not really, Pacs punches moved Floyd. The left counter on the fourth and the overhand in the sixth. Some straights also in the 9th or 10th. Kudos to Floyd for keeping composed and shaking it off. Floyd is pretty much impossible to knock out since he has a great chin, knows how to keep calm under duress and has good movement. Floyds punches were more accurate but were thrown to disrupt. He landed a nice uppercut and also a right in the 12th but nothing that had manny stunned and reeling. Floyd didn't try to take Manny out
    They moved Floyd because Floyd is always looking to mitigate the force of impact by making exaggerated movements away from the punch, which gives the eye the illusion he was hit harder than he was. It's all about damage control for Floyd.

    And of course Floyd wasn't trying to take Manny out. He's far too measured with his punch output. He could still knock folks out if he put more punches together, but that's not Floyd.. But....when he did throw, he was throwing with authority. Just as hard as PAC, and that's one reason why he had PAC the most gunshy we've ever seen him.

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    • #42
      For me it was a competitive fight, without Floyd ever being in danger of falling behind. After 8 rounds I thought it was close (5-3 Floyd) but I only gave Manny 1 round after that. So I had 8-4.

      This was not a whooping though and generally I feel the guys were pretty close in terms of level, I honestly do. Floyd is just a bit bigger and better, he does most things in a boxing ring better than Manny Pacquiao, but the difference in the ring doesn't amount to that great a gulf. I think if Floyd decided to get brave he could have been taken out, but he fought a smart fight and won.

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      • #43
        I gave Manny rounds 4&6 . Round 3 could be a toss up and if you feel like being generous and want to make it seem more competitive then maybe give 9 or 10

        But to give Pac 5 rounds just shows that you don't know how to score a fight or were so biased towards Manny your opinion isn't really worth much.


        People that gave manny 6-7 rounds are pathetic and in denial and their reasoning is even more sad . Mannys own network gave him 3 rounds that should tell you everything you need to know

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        • #44
          This fight was even remotely close and no amount of revisionist history can change that fact. Floyd basically shut Pac out with a boxing clinic for the ages. There's no way one could score more than three rounds for Manny Pacquiao. The only decisive rounds he won were the times he flurried against Money along the ropes in the 4th and 6th rounds.

          However, what really stood out in this fight was the shocking fact that Floyd was so much faster than Manny. While given that Pacquiao is the naturally lighter and quicker man; He missed so many punches and was reduced to landing only single ones at a time. Which was largely due to his inability of cutting off the ring against the naturally heavier, slower, older and a no legs having moving Mayweather.

          Moreover in the center of the ring, he hardly threw any punches at all because Floyd was timing and beating him to the punch at will with fast jabs. Also, once he did get into punching range Money would nail him with quick lead and pull right hand counters.

          In addition, where were all those five and six punch combinations we are so accustomed to seeing Manny landing against common opponents, which he often tends to throw from different angles? They were con****uously absent because Mayweather neutralized them.

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          • #45
            i had it for floyd the night of the fight, after being sober and re watching several times i cant find myself able to give more than 4 rounds to floyd, he missed so much.. just watch and watch close with good vision most jabs are picked off or missed completely

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            • #46
              How in the world are you the aggressor when you throw less punches than your opponent? That makes 0 sense. Manny did next to nothing. He looked like he just showed up for a pay check.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by daggum View Post
                pac clearly won rounds 6-10. he landed the cleaner, harder punches in all those rounds while floyds punches were not landing clean. and he had floyd hurt in rounds 4,6 and 8. why would you give them to floyd? because he was controlling the pace? lmao pac was controlling the hard punches to his face. isn't that the point of boxing? you can't just score a fight for one guy because you think he's doing what he should be doing. you have to score a fight based on what is happening aka who is landing the better punches and that was clearly pac. punches that land clean are worth more than punches that don't. this should be obvious especially to floyd fans who claim that is why floyd is so great but its flip-flop city here
                This is just not true at all

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by hectari View Post
                  The fight was extremely hard to score, do you just score it for Floyds range finder weak jab? the activity was so minimal, do you give Credit to Floyd for landing shots on Pacs gloves while Pac had his glove near his face?

                  Floyd fans are the saddest, they act like this was an azz whooping, the one judge who had it 118-110 had me shaking me head, I had it 7-5 for Floyd, but most people thought it was a draw around me.

                  It was a disappointed fight, and win for Floyd, his father wanted him to outdo Marquez and Morales but doing a sensational combo punch win similar to how he beat Gatti, Pac was ready to be taken out, he was a dead goose but Floyd hesitated, I believe Floyd was scared of Pacs power, I underestimated Pacs power big time, he hurt Floyd in the fight while Floyd couldnlt hurt him.

                  All in All its not a win to boast about, its like Pac fans if they were to boast about his win over Marquez in the 3rd fight, its a weak win and any fan of Floyd should be disappointed he is the man who controls the fight, yet didnt finish the show with action and long reach combos, he had the clear reach advantage.

                  I was embarrassed for boxing that night.
                  No worries mate, boxing is embarrassed of you.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by MBE View Post
                    Floyd pitched a shutout on my card. Some of the easiest work of his career.
                    I agree it was one of his easiest fights

                    Originally posted by ROSS CALIFORNIA View Post
                    You're an idiot for making comparisons to Pac vs JMM 3. That fight was much closer.
                    These are the same posters who act like Manny clearly won the 3rd fight with Juan and was dominating the 4th.....

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                      This fight was even remotely close and no amount of revisionist history can change that fact. Floyd basically shut Pac out with a boxing clinic for the ages. There's no way one could score more than three rounds for Manny Pacquiao. The only decisive rounds he won were the times he flurried against Money along the ropes in the 4th and 6th rounds.

                      However, what really stood out in this fight was the shocking fact that Floyd was so much faster than Manny. While given that Pacquiao is the naturally lighter and quicker man; He missed so many punches and was reduced to landing only single ones at a time. Which was largely due to his inability of cutting off the ring against the naturally heavier, slower, older and a no legs having moving Mayweather.

                      Moreover in the center of the ring, he hardly threw any punches at all because Floyd was timing and beating him to the punch at will with fast jabs. Also, once he did get into punching range Money would nail him with quick lead and pull right hand counters.

                      In addition, where were all those five and six punch combinations we are so accustomed to seeing Manny landing against common opponents, which he often tends to throw from different angles? They were con****uously absent because Mayweather neutralized them.
                      Exactly, Floyd spent the majority of the fight in the center of the ring standing right in front of Manny. Manny just didn't throw anything, he looked shook. I couldn't believe how tentative he was.

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