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  • b00g13man
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    #21
    Originally posted by Weebler I
    People don't realise, this is how the majority of the watching public saw the fight.

    This is Hamilton btw for those who don't watch F1:

    Looooool. What's the purpose of posting the picture? To indicate his race or something?

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    • BrometheusBob.
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      #22
      Originally posted by OutClassed
      Wow this was an excellent read. Thanks for the post. I never really came up with any suggestions as concrete as what Holfield did in that article, and they are arguably very good ones.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Weebler I
        It absolutely is, I've spoken to casuals who watched it they don't get why the guy running is given the decision. They think it was fixed
        Yes, most casuals I knew who bought the PPV were underwhelmed with the performance of both boxers. Some felt almost indifferent about who got the decision. Most were turned away from the idea of shelling out even half as much for a fight so readily again.

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        • SilverMiles
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          #24
          Originally posted by BrometheusBob
          So what's the definition of close here? How'd you score it?
          Anywhere in the park of 7-5 for either man or 6-6. Anything else and you're seriously bias.

          Floyd wasn't attempting to fight, he threw no combos, he would clinch in close instead of fighting his way off the ropes, and was throwing shots with nothing on them. And almost never countered.

          I mean how do you fight the smaller fighter and not hurt him once in 36 minutes of fighting.

          Manny's problem was that he wouldn't let his hands go enough but when he didn't there were usually hard shots. He missed wild a few times as well and when you fight Mayweather because people use that as a reason to give May rounds.



          The decision was bull, compubox was bull, and anyone who say one of the two fighters dominated is full of it.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Weebler I
            People don't realise, this is how the majority of the watching public saw the fight.

            This is Hamilton btw for those who don't watch F1:

            What do you have to back up that claim?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Weebler I
              It absolutely is, I've spoken to casuals who watched it they don't get why the guy running is given the decision. They think it was fixed
              The casuals you spoke to represent the majority of people that watched the fight? How many casuals did you speak to?

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                #27
                Originally posted by SilverMiles
                Anywhere in the park of 7-5 for either man or 6-6. Anything else and you're seriously bias.

                Floyd wasn't attempting to fight, he threw no combos, he would clinch in close instead of fighting his way off the ropes, and was throwing shots with nothing on them. And almost never countered.

                I mean how do you fight the smaller fighter and not hurt him once in 36 minutes of fighting.

                Manny's problem was that he wouldn't let his hands go enough but when he didn't there were usually hard shots. He missed wild a few times as well and when you fight Mayweather because people use that as a reason to give May rounds.



                The decision was bull, compubox was bull, and anyone who say one of the two fighters dominated is full of it.
                I think I will go back and do my own count of the punches because I am curious about that, but for the record I had it 8-4. I could see 9-3 or 7-5 at most. 10-2 is buggin, a few people had this and for me you'd have to go to 100% olympic style scoring to consider it. 6-6 also seems lenient for pac, because even though he was the aggressor, many rounds had pacquiao lunging into the corner only to have mayweather strafe away, had him throwing at air etc. Aka, it wasn't very effective. He did land a fair number of flush counter punches of quality but not enough of them to win many rounds convincingly in my mind. It's hard to eat straight rights for most of a round and take it away by letting go a couple of good punches.

                Either way it was scored, Pac did look very frustrated by the end of the fight which is kind of telling.

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                • FeFist
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                  #28
                  Funny how people who say you should not win a fight with defence think a fight should be won by moving forward, which is what it boils down when you acknowledge the fact that Mayweather threw and landed more than Pacquiao.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                    The casuals you spoke to represent the majority of people that watched the fight? How many casuals did you speak to?
                    ~4 million.

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                    • tredh
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                      #30
                      There are 4 scoring criteria for boxing:

                      Defense

                      EFFECTIVE Agression

                      Clean Punching

                      Ring Generalship

                      Now scoring a fight by the rules of boxing not your own made up rules.

                      Someone explain to me how Manny won that fight?

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