Comments Thread For: DiBella Fires Bombs on Golden Boy Over Haymon Claims

[Humean]

DiBella thinks that if Haymon wears a hat with MANAGER written in capital letters then that means he is only a manager and cannot possibly be anything more.

[FeFist]

Anyone in the know know if what he says about the Ali Act is true?

Seems to me that if Haymon is acting as promoter in everything but name, then his interests are vested by acting as manager/adviser to his fighters.

Does he have to literally be the promoter, or could he be in trouble if they can merely prove he is their de-facto promoter?

There are different methods of interprating statutes (Literal rule, golden rule, mischief rule/purposive approach). Literal rule attempts to make sense of the law by its most literal meaning, golden rule will look to secondary meanings of words in order to best make sense of the legislation, mischief rule/purposive approach rule will look in the direction of why the law was made (what mischief it was trying to right).

I don't think Di Bella is incorrect. Looking at the act, at first glance, I noticed that certain terms could be broadly defined (e.g. promoter is someone whose primary purpose is...). I don't know if there are any case laws on the matter, but I would imagine that the subjective terms would be interpreted with the fighter's interest at heart.

They would be able to look at Haymon's role and deduce that his primary role isn't to organise fights as he serve as a middleman/advisor. The actual promotion of a fight is handled by different companies or iden******.

To be frank, Oscar is somewhat of a **** up. I don't doubt that Arum is whispering in his ear. The situation is a win win for the latter: Golden Boy is his rival as are the fighters managed by Haymon. Nothing would make him happier than injunctions and money going down the drain.

[Kagami Taiga]

There's a lot to be interpreted with the Ali act, it's a rarely used statute and there isn't much case law on it. I don't think that will change and I doubt this will ever reach a jury trial. So yes, this is probably more about money than anything.

[SchoolTheseCats]

DiBella thinks that if Haymon wears a hat with MANAGER written in capital letters then that means he is only a manager and cannot possibly be anything more.

Or you didn't get what he was hinting at how can he call other promoters ineffective puppets when golden boy for years was the only one using haymon fighters doing the samething his lawsuit trying to claim is bad for boxing hypocritical of Oscar and then he also broke down everything I tell you what haymon should hire dibellia as defense attorney lol

[Tom Cruise]

There are different methods of interprating statutes (Literal rule, golden rule, mischief rule/purposive approach). Literal rule attempts to make sense of the law by its most literal meaning, golden rule will look to secondary meanings of words in order to best make sense of the legislation, mischief rule/purposive approach rule will look in the direction of why the law was made (what mischief it was trying to right).

I don't think Di Bella is incorrect. Looking at the act, at first glance, I noticed that certain terms could be broadly defined (e.g. promoter is someone whose primary purpose is...). I don't know if there are any case laws on the matter, but I would imagine that the subjective terms would be interpreted with the fighter's interest at heart.

They would be able to look at Haymon's role and deduce that his primary role isn't to organise fights as he serve as a middleman/advisor. The actual promotion of a fight is handled by different companies or iden******.

Thanks, green sent.

Be interesting to see how this all plays out. Haymon is definitely operating in a different way than I've ever seen in my time watching boxing.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

What's hilarious is Dibella lists out things that GBP did when SCHAEFER was leading it...

The Barclays deal
The Canelo deal
The HBO output deal

The same guy who was RINGSIDE for that Barclays show he's now touting.

Schaefer did NOT do the Canelo deal. That was Oscar's project. Canelo has stated in like 100 interviews that he only went to GBP because of Oscar.

Schaefer only had like a 6 or 8% stake of GBP. The rest belonged to De La Hoya. Yes, he was in charge, but it was Oscar's company that filled up a vast bank account from the profits every step of the way.

The HBO output deal was made based on their network locking in De La Hoya (the biggest cash cow at the time) and his main fighters (Mosley, Barrera, Hopkins, Marquez) to their network. Schaefer's influence had little to do with it. They wanted De La Hoya locked in and to block them from doing fights on Showtime.

Schaefer was an EMPLOYEE just like anyone else in the company, other than Oscar.

[MRCHOKEaMF]

get the pac excuse team....lol

[Humean]

Or you didn't get what he was hinting at how can he call other promoters ineffective puppets when golden boy for years was the only one using haymon fighters doing the samething his lawsuit trying to claim is bad for boxing hypocritical of Oscar and then he also broke down everything I tell you what haymon should hire dibellia as defense attorney lol

Oh I got it, as subtle as it was... De La Hoya and Golden Boy are hypocrites, and ??? The charge of hypocrisy is hardly a legal point.

[Pigeons]

Oscar wants fighters to earn less money and fight in front of smaller audiences. He is the scum of the earth. Trying to kill the sport along with Top Rank and every P@cturd on this forum.

[SchoolTheseCats]

All them guys that was in golden boy lawsuit thread staying clear of this one this old man just took a big horse **** on golden boy whole claim for there lawsuit