What was Pacquiao supposed to do?

[BennyST]

When Vitali Klitschko tore his rotator cuff against Chris Byrd, he quit on his stool. Pacquiao didn't even say a word until the fight was over.

Yeah, well that should tell you literally everything you need to know!

The fact that it was a bull**** injury being the biggest and most obvious. He probably strained it slightly weeks before, but it didn't affect his performance one iota. He threw his right hand with the same vehemence, power and speed as he always does. Even Roach was saying he was throwing it in the warm up perfectly and with speed and power...but it didn't change all fight. He never stopped throwing it, which is what would happen. He never showed any pain or distress, which is definitely what would happen with a rotator cuff tear, as it shows on every other fighter who's ever torn their shoulder during a fight, see Vitali as you just said for example.

Its purely an excuse and a really weak one at that. The only problem being that instead of everyone looking at the obvious evidence of there being no severe injury, you losers are buying into Pac, Roach and Arums bull**** hook, line and sinker.

The difference between every other shoulder tear injury and this one is that every other fighter was in actual obvious distress during the fight. It was also mentioned in the corner over and over because it's an actual serious concern of the corner, unlike in this fight when it wasn't mentioned and clearly wasn't of the slightest concern to any of them at all, even though this is his supposedly his most important fight ever and he's just lost any chance of winning it. You think that would be a concern wouldn't you?

We never saw it getting treated, and in the biggest boxing fight in history and the most important of Pac's entire career, you'd think they would want to treat him tearing his whole ****ing shoulder! What a massive load of complete horse**** and you ****s falling for this 'shoulder tear' bull**** are ****ing blind imbeciles.

If you tear your rotator cuff you aren't going to lift your arms up in celebration at the end of the fight after throwing right hooks and jabs all night, because you can't! That's what a rotator cuff tear stops you being able to do. You can't lift your arm at all. Pac throws his arms up in the air, no grimace of pain, no discomfort, no hesitation...no injury.

So, unlike every other severe shoulder injury in boxing history, there was no mention in the corner, there was no treatment of it during the fight at any time whatsoever, and most importantly, after the fourth round, Pac didn't come back to the corner and say "Ive torn my shoulder and can't use it" and the corner flip out, which is exactly what would've happened if this was true. It's his biggest fight ever, and he doesn't mention a fight losing injury once, despite him mentioning stuff like leg cramps and getting frantic treatment and questions about that in other fights.

Even more obvious is that he didn't actually ever stop throwing the right hook, especially after the fourth round. It became his best weapon, coincidentally after the fourth round. He used it a lot! Amazing that such a bad rotator cuff tear, that would in every single human and fighter on earth illicit clear pain, and very obvious signs of distress and lack of use, Pac not only doesn't show any of those, but actually shows the opposite by landing more right hooks and throwing more jabs after the fourth round than he did early. It's on video if you need 100% proof. You can see him continue to throw right hook after right hook without any sign of an injury whatsoever, particularly one that would debilitate your shoulder, as it did with Vitali...but thats because he actually did injure his shoulder and tear it, unlike Pac.

Funny also that in all these other fights where a fight losing injury occurs, it's the first thing that gets brought up by everyone, one because it's obvious to everyone there's actually been an injury and so they get asked about it, and two because the fighter tells people that he lost because his shoulder has torn and he can't use it at all. Instead Pac blathers about winning the fight, about not having any trouble and not ever being hurt, even though he's torn his shoulder and wouldn't be able to lift it without great agony...he comes up with a million different excuses none of which involve the shoulder at all, conveniently until the post fight press conference when he gets told to say it was his shoulder.

How much more bull**** do you guys need to swallow before feeling sick?

[BennyST]

Ya know, I'm surprised that no one mentioned how Mayweather rarely landed his potshots to the body that he lands very frequently on some other fighters. No one wants to give Pac even a sliver of credit. They were so excited that May won a decisive victory that they immediately took a shat on Pac. Even if this whole shoulder mess never popped into the equation, we'd still be hearing about how great May's performance was when it was not spectacular. I mean his reflexes are great, his legs are still there and Roach was delusional for questioning that, his ring smarts are great etc but he didn't do a very good job of winning that many rounds decisively imo. I had May winning fairly comfortably, I'm not tripping like some have been, but it didn't feel like an astounding victory to me.

Well, that's because he came straight out and didn't give any credit to the guy that actually won the fight, being the humble champion he is and all. Instead he comes out saying he won, Mayweather was ****, didn't hurt him, just ran and didn't do anything, oh and don't forget Arum and Koncz told me to say that I was injured, but I still won and it was an easy fight, blah blah blah.

You reckon maybe that's why no one is giving Pac credit? No one is even talking about Mayweather winning anymore, so he's not getting any credit. People are just falling for this "I couldn't fight because my shoulder had separated from the bone" bull****.

[-Kev-]

BennySt good posts, but anyway you put it, Pacquiao is lying. Whether he is lying about his injury, or lied to the NSAC by not disclosing his injury and saying no injury has occured. Pacquiao is lying which ever direction you go. He is a liar and he has been exposed as a disnohest person and not a man of god as he and the media portray him to be. He is bitter, "salty", an he is lying which ever way you put it.

[creekrat77]

I guess disclosing it the NSAC would be a risky move prefight knowing that Floyd probably would have gotten the heads up. We act like Manny has control of his career but he doesn't. I don't think Arum was going to let Manny pull out and ruin a massive pay day. There is definitely something fishy afoot but I think it has to do with whose pulling the strings.

[Larry the boss]

Take his loss like a man

[b00g13man]

Yeah, well that should tell you literally everything you need to know!

The fact that it was a bull**** injury being the biggest and most obvious. He probably strained it slightly weeks before, but it didn't affect his performance one iota. He threw his right hand with the same vehemence, power and speed as he always does. Even Roach was saying he was throwing it in the warm up perfectly and with speed and power...but it didn't change all fight. He never stopped throwing it, which is what would happen. He never showed any pain or distress, which is definitely what would happen with a rotator cuff tear, as it shows on every other fighter who's ever torn their shoulder during a fight, see Vitali as you just said for example.

Its purely an excuse and a really weak one at that. The only problem being that instead of everyone looking at the obvious evidence of there being no severe injury, you losers are buying into Pac, Roach and Arums bull**** hook, line and sinker.

The difference between every other shoulder tear injury and this one is that every other fighter was in actual obvious distress during the fight. It was also mentioned in the corner over and over because it's an actual serious concern of the corner, unlike in this fight when it wasn't mentioned and clearly wasn't of the slightest concern to any of them at all, even though this is his supposedly his most important fight ever and he's just lost any chance of winning it. You think that would be a concern wouldn't you?

We never saw it getting treated, and in the biggest boxing fight in history and the most important of Pac's entire career, you'd think they would want to treat him tearing his whole ****ing shoulder! What a massive load of complete horse**** and you ****s falling for this 'shoulder tear' bull**** are ****ing blind imbeciles.

If you tear your rotator cuff you aren't going to lift your arms up in celebration at the end of the fight after throwing right hooks and jabs all night, because you can't! That's what a rotator cuff tear stops you being able to do. You can't lift your arm at all. Pac throws his arms up in the air, no grimace of pain, no discomfort, no hesitation...no injury.

So, unlike every other severe shoulder injury in boxing history, there was no mention in the corner, there was no treatment of it during the fight at any time whatsoever, and most importantly, after the fourth round, Pac didn't come back to the corner and say "Ive torn my shoulder and can't use it" and the corner flip out, which is exactly what would've happened if this was true. It's his biggest fight ever, and he doesn't mention a fight losing injury once, despite him mentioning stuff like leg cramps and getting frantic treatment and questions about that in other fights.

Even more obvious is that he didn't actually ever stop throwing the right hook, especially after the fourth round. It became his best weapon, coincidentally after the fourth round. He used it a lot! Amazing that such a bad rotator cuff tear, that would in every single human and fighter on earth illicit clear pain, and very obvious signs of distress and lack of use, Pac not only doesn't show any of those, but actually shows the opposite by landing more right hooks and throwing more jabs after the fourth round than he did early. It's on video if you need 100% proof. You can see him continue to throw right hook after right hook without any sign of an injury whatsoever, particularly one that would debilitate your shoulder, as it did with Vitali...but thats because he actually did injure his shoulder and tear it, unlike Pac.

Funny also that in all these other fights where a fight losing injury occurs, it's the first thing that gets brought up by everyone, one because it's obvious to everyone there's actually been an injury and so they get asked about it, and two because the fighter tells people that he lost because his shoulder has torn and he can't use it at all. Instead Pac blathers about winning the fight, about not having any trouble and not ever being hurt, even though he's torn his shoulder and wouldn't be able to lift it without great agony...he comes up with a million different excuses none of which involve the shoulder at all, conveniently until the post fight press conference when he gets told to say it was his shoulder.

How much more bull**** do you guys need to swallow before feeling sick?

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

[b00g13man]

Take his loss like a man

This is all that needed to be done.

[BoZz]

When Vitali Klitschko tore his rotator cuff against Chris Byrd, he quit on his stool. Pacquiao didn't even say a word until the fight was over.

And that's where he fkd up,he should of just take the money and keep his mouth shut,now his own fans are angry at him for lying and the commission is after his ass for not ticking the yes square..he brought it all to himself really.

[Fetta]

Take his loss like a man

Bingo!

[Doggy Tang]

Don't they?

“He's got to do [the surgery],” Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum said. “He hurt it after the [2008 Oscar] De La Hoya fight [in a Jet Ski mishap], and it got better.”

“His advisors concluded that with short rest, treatments and close monitoring, Manny could train and, on May 2, step into the ring against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

“Manny continued to train and his shoulder improved, though not to 100%,”


http://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing...504-story.html

Sometimes they do. 10 months ago I had to go to the doctor cause I had 2 separate tears in my shoulder. I was given anti-inflammatory meds and I stopped boxing and lifting for 2 months. Went back and it's been as good as new. I'm able to box and lift now.

It's obvious he may have injured it previously but it wasn't that serious and got worse during the fight. You don't go in with a torn rotater cuff and throw punches like he was able to without wincing in pain. It just doesn't happen.