Comments Thread For: Pacquiao, Top Rank Joint Statement on Mayweather Fight

[BennyST]

Every single thing about this smacks of the worst kind of pathetic desperation. So ****ing pissweak by Pac and his team.

They go into the biggest fight in history, the one they waited six years for, the only fight that they needed to win in his whole career, the fight that the whole world wanted him to win...at 60% with a terrible shoulder injury? Get. The. ****. Out.

Pac was absolutely fine all fight. He never showed any restraint in throwing right hooks and jabs all fight. None whatsoever.

If he was injured, there would have been all sorts of stuff being done in the corner throughout the whole fight to keep it from getting inflamed and to keep it limber, particularly if they couldn't get this shot they wanted. They would have been asking about it; no mention even once, they would have been massaging it; not even a touch to it, and they would have been icing it; not an ice pack in sight all fight.

When Pac got his leg cramps they had the whole ****ing team in the ring desperately massaging his legs and asking him about them and trying to keep them from cramping up, but when he tears his shoulder in the biggest fight in his career and in boxing history, no one touches it, no one asks him if it's ok, no one ices it, no one even makes the slightest mention of it or even hints at it with a mention of the shoulder, how it holding up or with anything to keep it getting worse...but suddenly he's got a torn rotator cuff when they lose?

Even funnier was the close up of Pacs warm up showing him ripping hard right hook after hard right hook while laughing and smiling. You've got a torn rotator cuff that puts you at 60% and yet you're able to laugh and smile at the camera while tearing into the mitts with brutal looking right hooks? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Then amazingly, he can throw fast right hooks and jabs all fight without any hint of tightness, lack of speed or power or the tiniest resemblance of pain, but he's actually got a terrible shoulder injury that meant he couldn't throw the right hand, despite ****loads of video very much proving otherwise.

It's not difficult to see. Go watch a replay and you see him being very quick with his classic right hook counter all fight. He never stopped throwing and never looked any different than he ever does...in fact, he was really going for it and throwing it with more power than he usually does, he just couldn't land it that's all.

[bojangles1987]

Every single thing about this smacks of the worst kind of pathetic desperation. So ****ing pissweak by Pac and his team.

They go into the biggest fight in history, the one they waited six years for, the only fight that they needed to win in his whole career, the fight that the whole world wanted him to win...at 60% with a terrible shoulder injury? Get. The. ****. Out.

Pac was absolutely fine all fight. He never showed any restraint in throwing right hooks and jabs all fight. None whatsoever.

If he was injured, there would have been all sorts of stuff being done in the corner throughout the whole fight to keep it from getting inflamed and to keep it limber, particularly if they couldn't get this shot they wanted. They would have been asking about it, no mention even once, they would have been massaging it, not even a touch to it, and they would have been icing, not an ice pack in sight all fight.

Even funnier was the close up of Pacs warm up showing him ripping hard right hook after hard right hook while laughing and smiling. You've got a torn rotator cuff that puts you at 60% and yet you're able to laugh and smile at the camera while tearing into the mitts with brutal looking right hooks? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Then amazingly, he can throw fast right hooks and jabs all fight without any hint of tightness, lack of speed or power or the tiniest resemblance of pain, but he's actually got a terrible shoulder injury that meant he couldn't throw the right hand, despite ****loads of video very much proving otherwise.

It's not difficult to see. Go watch a replay and you see him being very quick with his classic right hook counter all fight. He never stopped throwing and never looked any different than he ever does...in fact, he was really going for it and throwing it with more power than he usually does, he just couldn't land it that's all.

Some of the best punches he landed were right hands. He was trying over and over to catch Mayweather with them when Floyd spun to Pac's right. If his shoulder was as bad as they're saying, he wouldn't have been able to throw it over Mayweather's left the way he kept trying to.

It's ridiculous. Even if he had some injury to it, it was nothing as serious as they are trying to say. More like the usual wear and tear every fighter has.

[sterilizer]

this is bull****...

two things;

1. this was THE BIGGEST fight of his career and he decides to go thru with it at less than 100%?

2. why wouldn't they inform NSAC to make sure that they can use it?


i'm a huge Manny fan but everything coming out of his team after the fight is an embarrassment


what happened to the humble Manny that accepted getting robbed vs Bradley?

best to just give Floyd his props and just STFU

It was also the biggest payday for him ever. So, first things come first, Manny wouldn't miss the opportunity to make the biggest amount for a fight that he could get in all his life. Also, disclosing that his hand was injured and he wasn't allowed treatment, would have given a huge advantage to his opponents in planning an even better fight.

I am just trying to see things objectively, not making any excuses, Manny looked pathetic, I can't believe he threw about half his average number of punches, and I also can't believe that he had a non-moving Floyd against the ropes in the 4th, he was free to pound him at will, and he backs down? It is really a very fishy business, the one fighter then never gets tired, never quits attacking and he does exactly that during the most important fight of his life?

[b00g13man]

Every single thing about this smacks of the worst kind of pathetic desperation. So ****ing pissweak by Pac and his team.

They go into the biggest fight in history, the one they waited six years for, the only fight that they needed to win in his whole career, the fight that the whole world wanted him to win...at 60% with a terrible shoulder injury? Get. The. ****. Out.

Pac was absolutely fine all fight. He never showed any restraint in throwing right hooks and jabs all fight. None whatsoever.

If he was injured, there would have been all sorts of stuff being done in the corner throughout the whole fight to keep it from getting inflamed and to keep it limber, particularly if they couldn't get this shot they wanted. They would have been asking about it; no mention even once, they would have been massaging it; not even a touch to it, and they would have been icing it; not an ice pack in sight all fight.

When Pac got his leg cramps they had the whole ****ing team in the ring desperately massaging his legs and asking him about them and trying to keep them from cramping up, but when he tears his shoulder in the biggest fight in his career and in boxing history, no one touches it, no one asks him if it's ok, no one ices it, no one even makes the slightest mention of it or even hints at it with a mention of the shoulder, how it holding up or with anything to keep it getting worse...but suddenly he's got a torn rotator cuff when they lose?

Even funnier was the close up of Pacs warm up showing him ripping hard right hook after hard right hook while laughing and smiling. You've got a torn rotator cuff that puts you at 60% and yet you're able to laugh and smile at the camera while tearing into the mitts with brutal looking right hooks? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Then amazingly, he can throw fast right hooks and jabs all fight without any hint of tightness, lack of speed or power or the tiniest resemblance of pain, but he's actually got a terrible shoulder injury that meant he couldn't throw the right hand, despite ****loads of video very much proving otherwise.

It's not difficult to see. Go watch a replay and you see him being very quick with his classic right hook counter all fight. He never stopped throwing and never looked any different than he ever does...in fact, he was really going for it and throwing it with more power than he usually does, he just couldn't land it that's all.

Some of the best punches he landed were right hands. He was trying over and over to catch Mayweather with them when Floyd spun to Pac's right. If his shoulder was as bad as they're saying, he wouldn't have been able to throw it over Mayweather's left the way he kept trying to.

It's ridiculous. Even if he had some injury to it, it was nothing as serious as they are trying to say. More like the usual wear and tear every fighter has.

Yep. Pretty much.

I can only imagine how people would react if Floyd pulled something like this post fight.

[joesaiditstrue]

Even if he had some injury to it, it was nothing as serious as they are trying to say. More like the usual wear and tear every fighter has.

without some sort of official statement from a professional (radiologist tech, his GP, surgeon, james andrews lol), we can't say for sure how serious it was

at the end of the day, that isn't even important. lets assume it was serious as f*** and needs surgery, then they should've post-poned the fight. simple as.

[BrometheusBob.]

"However, as Manny has said multiple times, he makes no excuses. Manny gave it his best."

Sounds like that's exactly what he's doing to be honest...

My probably biased interpretation of the latest from Pac camp is as follows - Pacquiao is probably coming to terms with the fact that he definitely lost, and that the decision was fair. He's not trying to say this win doesn't count for Floyd. But, he feels that a rematch could be warranted because having an injury now means he might be able to perform better next time. Without this he'd really have no other justification for a rematch - it wasn't a close or controversial decision and there isn't any particular reason otherwise to think that Manny or Roach would do anything drastically different. I'm not saying I buy it or don't yet but I think this is the angle they are going for.

Also, this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc5FZdcb_AU

Flo-mos acting like Pac got bodybagged due to CompuBox yet don't want to discuss Compubox when it comes to JLC (btw FMJ won that fight imo). Yet two judges and Kellerman, who was understandably shocked at Pacquiao's initial reaction to an important and decisive loss, thought he could have four rounds scored his way. If there is a legitimate reason to think that he might be able to do better by September, a rematch could be warranted. For me this would require further documentation of this injury. Also, I'd like to know how things of this nature were handled in the past to better understand how they might have made the decisions they made. For all I know it might be common for NSAC to approve USADA approved treatments normally as a formalism, or they might require their own investigation or whatever. I simply don't know if Arum and camp's handling of the process was reasonable/in line with how other fights were handled or not.

[Reloaded]

Manny I lied to all my people in camp now Im telling the truth .

Manny is pathetic go away with your BS and take your loss like a man .

We have heard every excuse under the sun from this liar going back 20 yrs , shoes , cramps , taking blood , found God and now this , Manny is a con man that does not mind lying to save face as the record of lies proves .

[hugh grant]

Bradley got the decision against Pac and complained about injuring his ankle.
So why cant Pac say he was injured when he was and many people confirm it as well. Pac sparring partners etc etc.

Floyd fans are so worried Floyd wont get credit, so they are quite paranoid and sensitive.

[Easy Work.]

Now we know why Floyd wouldnt release tickets. he was gonna pull out of the fight himself. Then when the USADA let him in on the injury, the tickets were on sale 5 minutes later. Wow this Floyd guy is a real coward

just leave the forum, youre an embarrassment like pacman right now

[lacson]

Your a idiot manny team didn't put on the form he filled out for nsac where the injury was at just stuffed he used in camp and they also didn't check box stating they would need the medication on fight night and that shot had no effect on him not moving his head or damn feet to stop getting tagged by same punches manny whole team a b1tch and so are you for going through with excuses

They did, they told the commission. They were approved to use it. They used it in training camp. They were approved to use it fight night. When it was time to apply it in the dressing room, they were denied.