Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Sparring Partner Says Injury is Legit

[IMDAZED]

Rematch in December is the least Floyd can do altruistically, or go to his grave as most hated American ever.

[T18Z]

I haven't disputed the injury obviously he had an injury in camp.

I'm dis*****g the severity of it and also pointing out that fighters getting injuries in camp is normal. Like Floyd said, both of his arms and hands were hurt during camp aswell.

And there won't be a rematch nor should there be.

We'll see the severity with the MRI I'd imagine.

Mayweather says his arms and hands were hurt during the camp, but without proof it's just a counter to Pacquaio's actual injury.

Saying I've hurt my arm means nothing, there are a large amount of sections to a persons arm, a few largely unimportant if sprained. The shoulder rotator isn't one of them.

[IronDanHamza]

So what exactly is your decision that his injury isn't severe based on? Not all injuries are the same. Mayweather having hurt hands in the fight does not mean Manny's shoulder was good to go.

Because he was throwing his right hand fine both in training footage, backstage and in the actual fight. Many times.

You don't know anything about Floyd's injuries either.

[BrometheusBob.]

Because he was throwing his right hand fine both in training footage, backstage and in the actual fight. Many times.

You don't know anything about Floyd's injuries either.

Sounds like we're at a stalemate then. We both can't say to what degree the injuries matter and can't downplay them for either. I never said this fight was Mayweather's best, and for all I know he could have been even better.

[NEETzsche]

i can't believe that people are not only willing but actually demanding to waste their money on another fight that will inevitably disappoint them lol

[T18Z]

Because he was throwing his right hand fine both in training footage, backstage and in the actual fight. Many times.

You don't know anything about Floyd's injuries either.

In training he was given the numbing steroid injections approved by USADA, so there's your answer for the training footage.

Backstage and in the fight: his injury began to heal because he took weeks off sparring and opted to using his left only for extended periods, giving his rotator time to partially mend. Backstage he obviously wasn't throwing full power shots or hooks, reducing the pain and risk of it damaging further, and in the actual fight you can see him back off Mayweather in round 4 after throwing his combination, despite Mayweather still being covered up.

Tearing the rotator won't make you unable to use your arm, it reduces the optimal range of motion and cause sharp spikes of pain whenever the arm is generally used. I can only imagine having it reoccur during the fight must've been rather painful or at the very least distracting. Fighting with a per-existing injury that's had a while to heal is not the same as fighting with an injury that's literally just occured all over again mid-fight, IMO.

Mayweather tore his but still used punches with it too, it just reduced his effectiveness and output.

In the end Pacquaio performed crap, even before the injury, both tactically and physically. I'm just waiting on the MRI results before I can assume if it was a serious hindrance or minor.

[MrRolltide91]

If conclusive evidence of the injury and the seriousness of it comes out people will still act like "things don't happen" and that it played no role.

S*it happens.



Sheer incompetence from team Pac if this is true.

Lmao...........

[Dafoo]

He was allowed to take the medication during training, just not during the fight.

Furthermore, there were reports among all boxing media members that reliable sources said Pacquaio had been injured during sparring and is taking time off training. You know this is a fact and it adds to the credibility of the injury being legit. You've also got his sparring partner backing up the claim, for whatever that is worth.

Postponing the biggest financial match in boxing history is ludicrious, it'd be moved to a worser date than the mexican holiday, thousands of people would lose out on money for booked accommodation, expenses and everything else involved. There is also the risk Mayweather cancels the fight, claiming Pacquaio 'never wanted the fight'.

Cancelling a fight of this magnitude is just not on the menu, otherwise I'm sure Floyd would have done the same with his injured hands, but the difference is he was and always has been able to take the numbing agent in his hands before his fights, so it makes no difference to him.

Pacquaio and his team were under the assumption they would be able to take the numbing shot they'd been using previously on the night of the fight, thus the immense pain the injury causes would be nullified during the fight. Instead, he was denied it, hurt it in round 4 again during his combination and the rest is history.

As a final point, I also believe Mayweather and his camp knew about the leaked injury, and that was the case for Mayweather intentionally clinching and pulling on his arm early on in the fight, which everyone can see.

I'd like to see a rematch, it makes financial sense and could set up a potential trilogy. He gave other fighters rematches, heck he gave Maidana one. Mayweather would be the heavy favorite, but is there anyone honestly more worthy of a rematch than Pacquaio? Let's not be ******, the fight makes sense, even if the fight was a dud and Pacquaio was delusional about thinking he won.

The problem with the injury excuse is this:

1) The NSAC has gone on record and said that they were not made aware of any injury Manny had sustained during training UNTIL the day of the fight. They've also gone on record and said had Manny camp made them aware by following the standard procedure, more could have been done before the day of the fight. Who knows, Manny may have been approved to use the meds.

2) Manny camp is on record saying that they only communicated the injury to USADA to get approval to use the prescribed meds. The day of the fight, Manny camp assumed they could continue injecting Manny with meds simply because USADA approved of the drug. However, it never crossed the minds of these idiots, that NSAC requires every fighter to complete a health safety form prior to fighting. On that form Manny camp checked the box that said Manny had no injuries and was basically 100%. They then later tried to get approval by NSAC to give Manny meds in locker room before fight, which quite frankly caught NSAC by surprise because there was never ANY documentation submitted to NSAC on the matter. It was rightfully denied. You can't claim on almost every media outlet and more importantly critical documents that your fighter is 100% healthy and then later come back and claim he needs meds injected into his body. WTF kind of amateurs does Manny have around him.

The bottom line is if Manny camp was aware of this injury and had no problem moving forward with the fight, its' rather bad sportsmanship to complain about it now. It's even worse to blame Floyd, of all people, for something Manny camp botched. The vitrol towards Floyd is misdirected. Manny fans should be furious with his camp for not doing the right things leading up to the biggest fight of his career. Period

A rematch is highly unlikely. Floyd dominated Manny and Arum has other plans to use Manny to build his new star Terrance Crawford.

[NEETzsche]

the fact that they informed nsac about an injury on the day of the fight is shady. it means that as an excuse it was premeditated, either as cover for a poor performance or for something else. if they had just invented the excuse after the fight then i would have shrugged it off as that's pretty common in boxing.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

well put. Not a single flo-mo has directly responded to your post and are just saying the same things over and over..

48-0 manny is now tbe (the best excuses) and is a classless thug hes no different than creflo dollar and eddie long