Floyd Sr and many posters on here noted Pac been gunshy since that KO, tainted win

[Hype job]

I agree. I'm not taking anything at all whatsoever from Floyd, but yeah, that brutal ass KO changed Manny. And again I'm not saying that Manny would've beaten Floyd pre-Marquez KO. I'm not making excuses. It's just how it goes. When you got KTFO like that it's always going to be in the back of your mind. And after the Marquez KO we saw Manny transition to more of a calculating, thinking boxer. When he took risks they since the KO, they were calculated, safe risks.

I really thought though that he would sell out yesterday and go for broke. Go out on his shield because it was the biggest fight of his life. He had reached the pinnacle (a Floyd fight) and had seemingly nothing to lose. But instead he largely fought like the same guy (except even way more hesitant) we saw against Rios/Bradley/Algieri.

And everyone on earth knew that Manny had no chance to ever out calculate or out think Floyd Mayweather.

Exactly that's the key!

How could any fighter be the same guy after a knockout like that?! He was out unconscious for almost 5 minutes!

After the KO he was a hesitant Pac, a Pac who would not throw caution to the wind and be reckless when he needed to be.

Look at the second Marquez fight when he knocks him down, he literally runs through his punches to knock him down because he was getting picked off. 2010 Pac woud have thrown caution to the wind, even if he got KO or TKO it would have been a very different fight!

[tjones1989]

The penny dropped for Pac in the very first 2 rounds, he got caught with 2 right hands and I think he was shaking up by it, he became hesitant about that, even when he buzz TBE he knew he couldn't punch himself out as all his 10 combo flurries didn't land apart from one.

Passive aggressive much?

[SN!PER]

Why would he be gun shy when it's his last fight and he's got nothing to lose?

Credit to Floyd for the win, but the result of this fight is just plain weird and nobody can deny that.

How can you explain Pacquiao throwing only 429 punches in the most important fight of his entire career?

The same Pacquiao who threw 1069 punches against Margarito?

[Mike D]

Exactly that's the key!

How could any fighter be the same guy after a knockout like that?! He was out unconscious for almost 5 minutes!

After the KO he was a hesitant Pac, a Pac who would not throw caution to the wind and be reckless when he needed to be.

Look at the second Marquez fight when he knocks him down, he literally runs through his punches to knock him down because he was getting picked off. 2010 Pac woud have thrown caution to the wind, even if he got KO or TKO it would have been a very different fight!

Yep, all it takes is that half second of hesitation. That's it. And it probably literally crosses his mind every single time he starts to jump in. It's all good though when you're fighting the likes of Chris Algieri & Brandon Rios, and even Tim Bradley to an extent, but not so much when you're in there with Floyd Mayweather. I mean not that Floyd is a big puncher, but Manny knows full well that Floyd is an exceptionally sharp counterpuncher, so he had that hesitation seemingly every time he was ready to jump in.

[tjones1989]

Yep, all it takes is that half second of hesitation. That's it. And it probably literally crosses his mind every single time he starts to jump in. It's all good though when you're fighting the likes of Chris Algieri & Brandon Rios, and even Tim Bradley to an extent, but not so much when you're in there with Floyd Mayweather. I mean not that Floyd is a big puncher, but Manny knows full well that Floyd is an exceptionally sharp counterpuncher, so he had that hesitation seemingly every time he was ready to jump in.

ANOTHER reason why this fight doesn't mean to much. This fight should have happened in 2009.

[Ray*]

Thanks bro, I've been doing a lot of crying since yesterday. PM me your number so I can call you during my next inevitable crying spell. I need a shoulder to cry on, bruh. No h0mo.

0800 9999 999... Time is a healer bro, good that some of you guys are taking it with a good sense of humour.

[Ray*]

Passive aggressive much?

It's okay time is a healer.

[HanzGruber]

ANOTHER reason why this fight doesn't mean to much. This fight should have happened in 2009.

Fight doesn't mean much but you said pac would be top 10 if he won? I love watching you guys trip over your balls

He will be in the top 10 atg for sure.

[tjones1989]

Fight doesn't mean much but you said pac would be top 10 if he won? I love watching you guys trip over your balls

Up yours to mate. This was a bull crap fight with floyds gay hugging, proves nothing.

[Ray*]

Why would he be gun shy when it's his last fight and he's got nothing to lose?

Credit to Floyd for the win, but the result of this fight is just plain weird and nobody can deny that.

How can you explain Pacquiao throwing only 429 punches in the most important fight of his entire career?

The same Pacquiao who threw 1069 punches against Margarito?

All respect to Margarito but he is a punching bag, especially at that stage of his career. You don't really expect Pac to throw less than Mayweather to be honest but then you do not expect Pac to throw 1000 odd punches against TBE neither, you can't throw against thin air, and this is what people that understand how boxing works have been saying for years, Al Bernstein said Pac would win based on his 1000 odd punches activity, it does NOT work like that al.