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  • Cinci Champ
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    #41
    Originally posted by NEETzsche
    the point is that golovkin does bring ratings and money. these guys are not choosing low risk/high reward over high risk/low reward - they're choosing low risk/high reward over high risk/high reward, which is less excusable in my opinion. there are no american ppv fights out there for froch right now; golovkin is just as lucrative (in the states) as any of his other potential opponents.
    lol u do realize ggg and his team used this same argument for ward righT?

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      #42
      Originally posted by R_Walken
      I think your a good poster but I'm going to get a bit ignorant

      He signed a 3 fight 50 mil contract because he's scared of GGG do you know how f.u.ckin ******ed that sounds a fighter who has no PPVs under his belt with no elite names either. He has decent ratings but they aren't through the roof. THERES MORE $ fighting Canelo.

      Like I Said Cotto Froch GGG are roughly the same age , while 2 of those fighters have faced the best of their generation headlined massive PPVs been in countless wars and are cemented in the HOF . The other is a boogeyman who doesnt have a elite name anywhere on his resume and hasn't been in a big fight and has never faced adversary add to that he only brings regular HBO money to the table is it any wonder they aren't in a rush to face GGG

      Stop sucking the sweet semen of your hero and wake up and smell the coffee. You should care that GGG top 2-3 win in his resume is a footnote and a nothing fight when compared to Cottos career who's in his what 4 th division nearing retirement . K2 should be focused on making him a PPV attraction not fighting Johnny no-hopers while calling out established elite fighters who want big $ to take on the risk that he presents.




      The point is GGG doesn't bring in the ratings or $. What's GGg opponets highest purse ? What's his highest rating?
      I'm glad you think GGG is this massive cash cow unfortunately the facts don't back it up
      He's not scared of GGG literally, this is pro boxing ffs.

      Of course, the Canelo fight is more lucrative, that much is obvious. But they've negotiated once and it failed, what you makes you think it won't fail again?

      Besides, fighting Canelo instead of Golovkin is not my main issue, milking that MW title is. Cotto keeping that belt hostage affects Golovkin's career, and it affects the MW division.

      As for GGG not being a PPV fighter: how does a fighter becomes a PPV attraction? By fighting another PPV fighter. GGG's ratings are huge, his style is exciting, he has PPV star written all over it. Him vs vs Cotto or Froch (especially Cotto because of his fan base) would make good numbers, if you think otherwise, you're ignorant.

      And no, Golovkin is not my hero, he's just my favourite fighter. Big difference.

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        #43
        Originally posted by R_Walken
        I swear your GGG wife the way you ride his d.i.ck so hard

        Check Froch and Cottos resumes. When your done and realize what they accomplished how many stadiums they've filled or PPV there been in and where they stand in the sport and where they are in their career then come back with a rebuttal

        Froch stated he wants a PPV fight HBO said Froch / GGG isn't a PPV in the states there for Froch doesn't want to take on the risk is it that hard to understand?

        Do your get mad at your husbands team because they won't take a risky fight (Ward) that isn't PPV , where there is a good chance Gennady loses. No you say Ward has no fans and doesn't bring enough to the table or that he wants to unify it works both ways

        Obviously Froch and Cotto view GGG as a risk that's why they want big $ . Do you get that or is your mind filled with Making love to your husband
        Cotto vs GGG would be PPV. Froch vs just about anyone will not be PPV in the US which is why GGG offered to fight Froch in the UK where it would be a PPV.

        Ward is such a great draw that he is fighting on BET. No more need be said there.

        I'm fine with Froch not fighting GGG. They are not in the same division and it means nothing to Golovkin's goal of unifying the MW division titles. Froch needs no excuses at all and he certainly does not need to try to denigrate GGG to justify not fighting him. That makes him look like less of a man.

        I don't care about Cotto's history. He has had PPV fights because of the combination of combatants, not because Cotto was in the fight. If that was the case, the upcoming Cotto - Geale fight would also be a PPV. Guess what? It's not. So much for Cotto as a PPV draw.

        And like Szef, GGG is not my hero, he's my favorite fighter. I do not have heroes, especially sports heroes.

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          #44
          Froch is 100 percent correct in his assessment. He would KO Golovkin in eight rounds after winning the first seven rounds easily.

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            #45
            Nothing but excuse after excuse. Froch is running scared, like most top guys Golovkin has his eyes on. They won't take that ass whipping unless they can get a serious payday out of it.

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            • R_Walken
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              #46
              Originally posted by Szef
              He's not scared of GGG literally, this is pro boxing ffs.

              Of course, the Canelo fight is more lucrative, that much is obvious. But they've negotiated once and it failed, what you makes you think it won't fail again?

              Besides, fighting Canelo instead of Golovkin is not my main issue, milking that MW title is. Cotto keeping that belt hostage affects Golovkin's career, and it affects the MW division.

              As for GGG not being a PPV fighter: how does a fighter becomes a PPV attraction? By fighting another PPV fighter. GGG's ratings are huge, his style is exciting, he has PPV star written all over it. Him vs vs Cotto or Froch (especially Cotto because of his fan base) would make good numbers, if you think otherwise, you're ignorant.

              And no, Golovkin is not my hero, he's just my favourite fighter. Big difference.
              In this day and age of boxing belts aren't worth that much to established fighters . Cotto has that belt but I think almost everyone agrees GagG the man in the division. I would say becoming a PPV fighter starts with fighting legitimate threats not 40-1 or 80-1 underdogs.

              I agree Cotto GGG is PPV but I think he's a bigger threat then Canelo and brings less $ that's why Cotto will probably fight Canelo and not Gennady. Bad luck and timing on Gennadys part but Cotto isn't a b.i.tch and would fight him if the $ right.

              Originally posted by Barcham
              Cotto vs GGG would be PPV. Froch vs just about anyone will not be PPV in the US which is why GGG offered to fight Froch in the UK where it would be a PPV.

              Ward is such a great draw that he is fighting on BET. No more need be said there.

              I'm fine with Froch not fighting GGG. They are not in the same division and it means nothing to Golovkin's goal of unifying the MW division titles. Froch needs no excuses at all and he certainly does not need to try to denigrate GGG to justify not fighting him. That makes him look like less of a man.

              I don't care about Cotto's history. He has had PPV fights because of the combination of combatants, not because Cotto was in the fight. If that was the case, the upcoming Cotto - Geale fight would also be a PPV. Guess what? It's not. So much for Cotto as a PPV draw.

              And like Szef, GGG is not my hero, he's my favorite fighter. I do not have heroes, especially sports heroes.
              Listen wifey Froch wants PPV in the states he could fight almost anyone and it'd be PPV in the UK so just stop it. I'm assuming it's time for you to start preparing Gennady dinner so concentrate on that and not on What has to say.

              You should care about Cottos history and what he's accomplished it's the whole point of the argument . That Cotto established enough to do what the f.u.ck he wants to do ,he's faced the best in his natural divisions. Can you say the same about your husband ?

              If Gennady team was only concerned with unifying his team would have a made a effort to fight Lee the moment he won that belt. But his team want Cotto because it's a big $ fight and you'd think Gennady would be a massive favorite

              And stop with the crying Froch hasn't been respectful towards Gennady . Froch has faced the best in his division he has massive stones and if the payday was right he's fight GGG don't doubt that.

              I see how you cry to Dan Rafeal and anybody else who will give you the time of day about your Hero but you should focus your estrogen and tears towards HBO and K2

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              • NEETzsche
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                #47
                Originally posted by R_Walken
                The point is GGG doesn't bring in the ratings or $. What's GGg opponets highest purse ? What's his highest rating?
                I'm glad you think GGG is this massive cash cow unfortunately the facts don't back it up
                on subscription tv golovkin does similar numbers to cotto. cotto-trout peaked at 1.4m viewers; golovkin-stevens peaked at 1.5m. cotto-martinez sold just 350k ppvs; martinez-chavez jr sold 750k. martinez-murray did 700k; golovkin-murray did 850k. martinez-macklin and golovkin-macklin both brought in around 1.1m viewers. do you see what i'm getting at?

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                  #48
                  If Froch believes he'd do all that to GGG, then why not take the fight and do it? Be the man to derail the GGG hype train. Then have your big money farewell fight.

                  But he doesn't truly believe in himself to beat Golovkin. It's pretty sad he feels this way about a smaller fighter.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by R_Walken
                    In this day and age of boxing belts aren't worth that much to established fighters . Cotto has that belt but I think almost everyone agrees GagG the man in the division. I would say becoming a PPV fighter starts with fighting legitimate threats not 40-1 or 80-1 underdogs.

                    I agree Cotto GGG is PPV but I think he's a bigger threat then Canelo and brings less $ that's why Cotto will probably fight Canelo and not Gennady. Bad luck and timing on Gennadys part but Cotto isn't a b.i.tch and would fight him if the $ right.



                    Listen wifey Froch wants PPV in the states he could fight almost anyone and it'd be PPV in the UK so just stop it. I'm assuming it's time for you to start preparing Gennady dinner so concentrate on that and not on What has to say.

                    You should care about Cottos history and what he's accomplished it's the whole point of the argument . That Cotto established enough to do what the f.u.ck he wants to do ,he's faced the best in his natural divisions. Can you say the same about your husband ?

                    If Gennady team was only concerned with unifying his team would have a made a effort to fight Lee the moment he won that belt. But his team want Cotto because it's a big $ fight and you'd think Gennady would be a massive favorite

                    And stop with the crying Froch hasn't been respectful towards Gennady . Froch has faced the best in his division he has massive stones and if the payday was right he's fight GGG don't doubt that.

                    I see how you cry to Dan Rafeal and anybody else who will give you the time of day about your Hero but you should focus your estrogen and tears towards HBO and K2
                    Do Miguel Cotto and Carl Froch classify as "legitimate threats"?

                    Or is it only Andre Ward?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by R_Walken
                      In this day and age of boxing belts aren't worth that much to established fighters . Cotto has that belt but I think almost everyone agrees GagG the man in the division. I would say becoming a PPV fighter starts with fighting legitimate threats not 40-1 or 80-1 underdogs.

                      I agree Cotto GGG is PPV but I think he's a bigger threat then Canelo and brings less $ that's why Cotto will probably fight Canelo and not Gennady. Bad luck and timing on Gennadys part but Cotto isn't a b.i.tch and would fight him if the $ right.



                      Listen wifey Froch wants PPV in the states he could fight almost anyone and it'd be PPV in the UK so just stop it. I'm assuming it's time for you to start preparing Gennady dinner so concentrate on that and not on What has to say.

                      You should care about Cottos history and what he's accomplished it's the whole point of the argument . That Cotto established enough to do what the f.u.ck he wants to do ,he's faced the best in his natural divisions. Can you say the same about your husband ?

                      If Gennady team was only concerned with unifying his team would have a made a effort to fight Lee the moment he won that belt. But his team want Cotto because it's a big $ fight and you'd think Gennady would be a massive favorite

                      And stop with the crying Froch hasn't been respectful towards Gennady . Froch has faced the best in his division he has massive stones and if the payday was right he's fight GGG don't doubt that.

                      I see how you cry to Dan Rafeal and anybody else who will give you the time of day about your Hero but you should focus your estrogen and tears towards HBO and K2
                      His team want Cotto because GGG is the WBC MANDATORY challenger. Do you understand what that means? Yeah, it means if Cotto has the balls he will be fighting GGG next instead of trying to buy him off. Canelo will still be there after he fights GGG and loses. IF he even gets by Geale, that is. But Cotto has been sitting on his ass for a year and Geale will not be a guaranteed walk over. As for Lee, he already has a mandatory against BJS to take care of. Once that is over, I am sure there will be a fight against GGG soon after. IF he beats Saunders, of course.

                      As for the money issue, GGG and his promoter have stated MANY times ON CAMERA that they are willing to be the B side to any major fight and even stated they will accept just about any terms Cotto requests. Basically, they just want the fight because they want the belt. Cotto just happens to be holding it at the moment. It's nothing personal, he is just in the way. Like an ant.

                      Froch is not a PPV against ANYONE in the US. Maybe if he dropped enough weight and managed to fight Floyd in his last fight, he would be on PPV. Not that there's any chance of that happening. He should simply retire. His Chavez meal ticket was destroyed by Fonfara. Maybe Froch should try his luck against him?

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