Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Talks Fighting on BET, Discusses PBC Impact

[JJRod]

U must be white . Ward is ALWAYS impressive if u know REAL boxing . Only the casual fan is looking for KO's every time . It's very difficult to knock guys out every time whether they r notables or not . U say "Don't be content with getting rounds in cruising to a UD" . Have u ever boxed ? If u have , then u would know how silly this statement is . You r implying that Ward is boring which is the guise commonly used by undercover racist to maginalize Ward on this site .

How you managed to get that from my post is beyond me. I suggest you re-read my post.
GOH with your racist accusations.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Styles make fights . Some of Mayweathers past opponents have been KO'ed by other guys , but those other guys still couldn't beat Mayweather , let alone KO him .

[SugarRaRobinson]

As long as Ward impresses he'll be invited back on HBO and other networks. As long as he impresses though. The guy he's fighting is not in Ward's class and shouldn't pose a problem for Ward. He needs to go out show killer instinct and take him out. Don't be content with getting rounds in and cruising to a UD. That will put the casual viewer to sleep.

My inference came from ur last two sentences . Casual fans don't know s..t except fights like the one on Saturday , and although there will more than likely be no KO's on Saturday , the casual fan will still watch and enjoy the fight that will most likely be Floyd cruising to a unanimous or possibly split decision . we know ur not the casual fan cause if u were u wouldn't be registered on this site . s

As long as Ward impresses he'll be invited back on HBO and other networks. As long as he impresses though. The guy he's fighting is not in Ward's class and shouldn't pose a problem for Ward. He needs to go out show killer instinct and take him out. Don't be content with getting rounds in and cruising to a UD. That will put the casual viewer to sleep.

My inference came from ur last two sentences . Casual fans don't know s..t except fights like the one on Saturday , and although there will more than likely be no KO's on Saturday , the casual fan will still watch and enjoy the fight that will most likely be Floyd cruising to a unanimous or possibly split decision . we know ur not the casual fan cause if u were u wouldn't be registered on this site . Plus real boxing fans can care less about casual fans , so stop hiding behind all this "casual fan" B.S. and just say ur talking about yourself . With that being said ,YOU stating that Ward producing anything short of a KO means he's boring and will put YOU to sleep puts u in that same cesspool with the rest of the racist that call Ward boring just because he's Black so
stop hiding behind all this "casual fan" B.S. and just say ur talking about yourself . With that being said , YOU stated that Ward producing anything short of a KO means he's boring and will put YOU to sleep puts u in that same cesspool with the rest of the racist that call Ward boring just because he's Black. One question ; Was the Rodriguez fight boring ?

[dirty fingers]

Having it on BET is worse than if it was on public access tv.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Having it on BET is worse than if it was on public access tv.

BET does have an initial cheesiness to it , but it's probably just because its new .

[Scipio2009]

There's more to it than just showing free fights on network television though. What good is it if many of the top fighters wont be able to face off against one another due to being aligned with rival networks and promoters who wont do business with one another.

Arum/GBP/Dibella/Main events don't have problems making fights together. It's Haymon who's trying to Isolate himself and his fighters from doing business with other networks and promoters. Sure its good for him and for his fighters but bad for the sport as a whole.

When was the last time Arum and Duva put on a fight card together? When was the last time Top rank actually co-promoted a fight card with any other outfit (Algieri's promoter recieved a flat fee, having no say in the actual promotional effort, for the Pacquiao-Algieri fight)?

If you're going to try and make some point, be clear with the information that you're using to back it.

[Scipio2009]

Good to read that his deal with BET might just be for this fight. Him being back on HBO makes fights with some of the bigger names easier to make. I'm guessing being signed to Roc rules out fights against Haymon guys.

What super middleweights fight on HBO? The only fighters with formal deals to HBO, from what I've been able to read, are Pacquiao, Canelo, Wladimir, Kovalev, and Golovkin. enlighten me with other names if you have any.

Ward isn't a PPV fighter yet (I think he eventually gets there), so he's basically in a position where he's hunting down the biggest rights fee. HBO seems insistent on low-balling him on the money.

If the BET fight comes off well, draws a strong rating, and gets Ward the purse that he commands, why go back to HBO? Ward-Froch 2 may need a premium TV outfit (to net the PPV revenue in the UK, etc), but there's really not much there for him beyond that, especially if HBO isn't ready to bring the money.

You add that BET is in the Viacom basket of channels, opening up the possibility of being broadcast on Channel 5 (UK), and Ward now has a viable alternative to whatever HBO is ready to offer.

[Scipio2009]

What I'm getting from this, is Ward may have screwed himself in signing with ROC Nation. He's an inactive fighter trying to make a comeback, yet he signed with an upstart promoter who gets him his first fight in 1.5 years on BET? That's like Manny Pacquiao taking off for nearly 2 years and having his comeback fight broadcast solely on TFC (The Filipino Channel), only worse.

Ignoring that BET is available in 100 million homes, Jay-Z's name holds cache across the platform, and Andre Ward is still, arguably, the second best fighter on the planet.

[Scipio2009]

To get back on HBO, Ward doesn't need to impress, he just needs a decent, quality opponent and to reduce his ridiculous asking price. Ward has never had a killer instinct, he fights with a survival instinct. He does what he needs to do to survive and win, not to actively defeat his opponent.

Ward came to HBO as arguably the biggest name on Showtime at the time, and earned $1.9m in his first fight for them, outclassing Chad Dawson.

If Ward comes back, on top of his game as is generally expected of him, why would he take short money to fight on HBO? Especially understanding that, outside of a Golovkin fight (which Team Golovkin doesn't want) or a Kovalev fight (which Ward believes himself to not be physically prepared for), there's nothing that HBO can deliver for him.

HBO isn't going to put him on PPV so, for every Ward fight going forward, Ward will be open to weighing whatever HBO is willing to offer against whatever he can earn from having the same fight on BET.

[NEETzsche]

What super middleweights fight on HBO? The only fighters with formal deals to HBO, from what I've been able to read, are Pacquiao, Canelo, Wladimir, Kovalev, and Golovkin. enlighten me with other names if you have any.

Ward isn't a PPV fighter yet (I think he eventually gets there), so he's basically in a position where he's hunting down the biggest rights fee. HBO seems insistent on low-balling him on the money.

If the BET fight comes off well, draws a strong rating, and gets Ward the purse that he commands, why go back to HBO? Ward-Froch 2 may need a premium TV outfit (to net the PPV revenue in the UK, etc), but there's really not much there for him beyond that, especially if HBO isn't ready to bring the money.

You add that BET is in the Viacom basket of channels, opening up the possibility of being broadcast on Channel 5 (UK), and Ward now has a viable alternative to whatever HBO is ready to offer.

lol channel 5 is virtually unwatched. the only boxing they show is whatever scraps no one else bothered to bid for

do we know yet what ward will be paid for this fight?