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sTOP the lies! Easy win for TBE!Comment
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WOW..Loaded is giving lessons...
He'll be one of the only Flo.Mos present on Graduation Night May 3rd...
The Rest of the CHUMPS will be Jumping Off the FRAUD Band Wagon, and
Will be Missing in Action, No where to be found..., but Loaded will be here....
Loyal even after the Fraudsters A$$ whipping, by Pac the Mon!!!Comment
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"The class of opponents is way higher for Floyd and the conditions were much tougher because of it"
Where on earth did u get this class of opponents? Is there a reference where we can see the class of a fighter? Or did you just made it up?
"Boxing is in classes A+ is way different than C even if C looks to the casual as anything but C"
Again, where did you get this A and C class? did you invented this yourself?
I think it's you who need lessons about stating facts.Comment
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You have to be severely delusion to not recognize that Pacquiao isn't half the fighter he was 5 years ago.
His physical attributes have declined quite a bit. He no long has his legs, which were his most important asset, his work rate has slowed, his ability to punch from angles and places you aren't suppose to be able to punch from has disappeared.
Watch the Cotto fight, which I consider the last fight of his prime, and compare it to Manny today.
He looks like a sluggish old man compared to that fighter.
Just look at the Bradley fight and compare it to the Cotto fight, and look at how much more Pacquiao stays inside after he jumps in, instead of throwing his punches and darting out again like he use too.
Not the same fighter. Thats what is such a shame, that Floyd felt the need to wait until Pacquiao had diminished so far.Comment
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Isnt what your saying like saying look at he Gatti Floyd and the Maidana Floyd , they have both slipped , thats not the issue its what were they up against when we judge them in relation to the fight days away .
Cotto was a weight effected fighter against Manny so was Oscar , look at both fights with both guys against Floyd and Manny looking only at Oscar and Cotto , look closely at , intensity , resistance , snap on punches , timing , physical strength and stamina .
You think its the monster Manny bashing those guys , why they looked like crap or Manny so good is not what you think , they were bags and whether you believe it or not Manny could not beat the 154 versions Floyd fought but we will never know , if what Im saying is BS Manny will beat the crap out of Floyd because its Floyd that was the hype job , but if Floyd out classes Manny and dominates him easily then Manny was the hype job .
Im talking domination not split or anything a shut out or stoppage .Comment
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The difference is they have slipped in very different ways.
When you are a fighter like Pacquiao or Roy Jones, you live and die by your physical abilities. Once those physical attributes start to leave you, you become an ordinary fighter.
As opposed to a fighter like Floyd or Hopkins, who have always been decently good in most aspects Physically, but base their style off of defense and setting traps. Those traps are still traps, and are not really based on having your reflexes, or your hand speed, because its getting people to fall into a pattern where you have already planned what you are going to do when they fall into it.
Ive never thought Floyd was half as quick with his hands as people give him credit for, he just has good timing. He was never really reliant on his legs, despite people calling him a runner. He isn't reliant on super stamina and an ability to outwork you.
Pacquiao was reliant on physical attributes. His explosivity, the bounce in his legs that could take him to ever single place in the ring at the same time. The ability to throw that punch from an awkward place with power and off balance and moving.
He can't do that anymore. Thats why he hasn't stopped anyone in ages. Because he doesn't have the tools that made him such a dangerous fighter. He can't get in throw a combination, dart out and come back in from a new place with lots of punches.
It was never that he hit so hard that people just couldn't hold up to his power, he had good power, and the ability to hit you when you weren't expecting to be hit.
He cant do that anymore, hence, he doesn't stop people anymore.
I would be surprised if the fight is competitive. Manny really is a shell of himself, and its been well hidden.
They have put him in against progressively worse competition as he has declined, to make him look like he still has it but the decline is obvious.
With Floyd, you can see he has slowed down a bit, the Maidana fight was a little misleading, because Maidana is awkward and unpredictable, which was always going to be bad for Floyds style, but compare that to what he did against Alvarez.
But who knows, maybe they will both be a shell of themselves, and we will end up with Ali Frazier III.Comment
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Stop peddling myths Oscar drained yeah but Cotto no, even your own hardcore Floyd fans admit Cotto can't beat Manny, Manny is too fast, Cotto is too easy to hit, Cotto has stamina issues throughout his career. Cotto at 154lbs would be even slower and more easy to hit.
And this isn't a prime Manny, few fighters recover from brutal knockouts like the Marquez 1. Floyd isn't prime either but he hasn't been in as many wars or brutally knocked out.Comment
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