The real reason why Floyd has been avoiding southpaws is..

[SthPaw]

This is what I've been saying. Floyd has to beat southpaws to the punch everytime with his lead right because he can't counter off well using the high guard. He cant sit back roll a right hand then come back with a uppercut or straight right like what he did all night to canelo and marquez.

He is so dependent on that right hand lead against southpaws. In the guerrero fight he basically just spammed that punch because he is so limited offensively. His jab to the body, his leaping left hook and pull counter is not really very efficient because of the angles. Against pac if that's all he has he is in trouble. I got Pac by decision. Unanimous. Pac outhustles him for 12 rounds.

Yeah I watched May-Guerrero just last night and I agree. There where points in that fight where his lead right was very obviously depended on. He either pops in that right lead and ducks down and out to his right, or pops it in and then leans back to avoid the counter...So yeah, I wouldn't go so far as to say Floyd is offensively limited but I see what you mean; Floyd used that lead right in abundance vs Guerrero and I expect him to do the same vs Manny.

This by no means is to compare the Ghost to Pac-Man because as you all know that would be ridiculous. But I feel Floyd will have plenty of success with his lead rights vs Manny...I expect to see Manny's head snapped back quite a few times BUT the counters that Robert was not able to land after Floyd had moved (after his right) will be a lot more available to Manny when you consider his speed and how he can close gaps very fast at an angle if he has too...

So it may even out on account of Manny being levels above Robert, but hopefully you see my point; Floyd will land many right hand leads, but Manny is able to make up for it unlike Ghost.

[Spoon23]

Its unfair to say he becomes a not so great fighter. Im a very large critic of Floyd, and have him ranked behind Rigondeaux p4p, but he has other tools. You dont get where he is at by only having one wrench in your tool kit.

Pacquiao doesn't have the mobility to work around you and punch from all angles anymore. He has lost what made him Pacquiao, now he is just a southpaw with speed and some power.

Honestly, Pacquiao shouldn't legitimately be rated top 10 p4p with where he is at in his career and skills wise. Im actually worried that the fight will be a one sided blow out where Pacquiao isn't even competitive. We haven't seen him against any top talent in quite a few years.

Bradley was put on a wheel chair after the first fight with pacquiao and you have the nerve to say he doesn't have the foot work? Bradley couldn't catch this tornado and as a result he twisted his ankle. again no foot work?

2nd fight with Bradley, Again Bradley looked like a lost puppy twisting and turning in the ring, and was a fighter who couldn't find Pacquiao. Guess what Bradley was the top 3 p4p boxer in the planet then and again looked like a broken man with 2 left legs in there. And you got the nerve to say pac shouldnt even be in the top 10?

Algieri, among all the boxers Pac has fought in his career I can honestly say in a straight face, he is the most moving target in all of Pac's opponents. Just watching algieri fight Pacquiao i can recall how dizzing it was. He kept on running and running in all of the rounds, guess what, Pac's foot work got to him and served him 6 KDS. So to say Pac has slowed down is just down right wrong.

Algieri ran and ran more than Floyd would ever run in a fight. You know what? Pac still got to him, which proves Pac is ready for a runner, hence this fight is now made. Pac still has the agility and the foot work to work his magic. Just have to look in camp to see it again.

Lastly, never said anything about floyd losing in this thread. Just saying Floyd cannot use his favorite stance against Pacquiao, which literally means he can't rely on his favorite stance That's it. It's a disadvantage.

Having to use other skills and setting aside his shoulder roll is a disadvantage, As you said his shoulder roll isn't just a defensive stance but a stance that starts off his offense. Without it, he ain't gonna be all that he can be on fight night. Advantage Pacquiao. that's all I am saying.

Don't down play Pac's accomplishments. It's obvious He is still is p4p rated number 2 for a reason.. He earned it. As Floyd has earned it and that is why this is the biggest fight in history.

Lastly, if you can't see why clottey,rios, algieri, Mosely were lopsided fights That Pac almost won most of the rounds with them is because of footwork. Pls learn to analyze. You sound so dumb saying what you said..

[KingKhan1]

As you have mentioned his shoulder roll starts his offense, But knowing his fighting a southpaw that can easily target his head on a shoulder roll stance. He becomes a different Foyd mayweather. a floyd mayweather who can't rely on his bread and butter.

Truth hurts.. without his shoulder roll, he isn't the complete Floyd Mayweather we are accustom to see, His shoulder roll is a defensive stance and an offensive starter to Floyd. Without it he becomes a not so great fighter..

Pac will capitalize on that set back. Floyd being on a high guard will play in Pac's strengths. Toe to toe fighting is Pac's forte, add the inn and out movement of Pac, Floyd won't know what hit him.

Floyd is a defensive genius and most of his moves comes from his shoulder roll. Now, without it.. He just turns into a not so great fighter.. Pac will surely be in an advantage vs a Floyd in an offensive high guard stance, May 2 Pac will show the world what I meant.

You are deluded. If you think Floyd got to where he is today not being able to avoid a straight left hand then you need your head checking. Manny's volume will trouble Floyd. Not a straight left. Now to mention the one single punch that has troubled Manny throughout his career. The counter right. Morales popped him with it all night, as did Marquez x4, as did Bradley.

[HEND]

Jesus christ man...You been on this site for four years and only have 500 post. And no good rep at all. with only 28k points. heheheheeeee

Shut the *** up! :AOR:

Confirmed no life.

[megas30]

Floyd has been "avoiding" southpaw because they are rare, in world, let alone boxing, let alone around his weight class. Even Lennox never faced one in his professional career.

[hugh grant]

Floyd has a lot of tricks up his sleeve, so he will just have to find another way of avoiding the straight left down the pipe.

But Floyd has beaten southpaws so he can do it. Just were not sure if he can do it against someone of Pacs calibre.

[bluebeam]

p will was his biggest southpaw duck aside from pac

so did pacquiao,mosley,and cotto duck paul williams too?

if you say no you are hypocrit

[bluebeam]

Bradley was put on a wheel chair after the first fight with pacquiao and you have the nerve to say he doesn't have the foot work? Bradley couldn't catch this tornado and as a result he twisted his ankle. again no foot work?

2nd fight with Bradley, Again Bradley looked like a lost puppy twisting and turning in the ring, and was a fighter who couldn't find Pacquiao. Guess what Bradley was the top 3 p4p boxer in the planet then and again looked like a broken man with 2 left legs in there. And you got the nerve to say pac shouldnt even be in the top 10?

Algieri, among all the boxers Pac has fought in his career I can honestly say in a straight face, he is the most moving target in all of Pac's opponents. Just watching algieri fight Pacquiao i can recall how dizzing it was. He kept on running and running in all of the rounds, guess what, Pac's foot work got to him and served him 6 KDS. So to say Pac has slowed down is just down right wrong.

Algieri ran and ran more than Floyd would ever run in a fight. You know what? Pac still got to him, which proves Pac is ready for a runner, hence this fight is now made. Pac still has the agility and the foot work to work his magic. Just have to look in camp to see it again.

Lastly, never said anything about floyd losing in this thread. Just saying Floyd cannot use his favorite stance against Pacquiao, which literally means he can't rely on his favorite stance That's it. It's a disadvantage.

Having to use other skills and setting aside his shoulder roll is a disadvantage, As you said his shoulder roll isn't just a defensive stance but a stance that starts off his offense. Without it, he ain't gonna be all that he can be on fight night. Advantage Pacquiao. that's all I am saying.

Don't down play Pac's accomplishments. It's obvious He is still is p4p rated number 2 for a reason.. He earned it. As Floyd has earned it and that is why this is the biggest fight in history.

Lastly, if you can't see why clottey,rios, algieri, Mosely were lopsided fights That Pac almost won most of the rounds with them is because of footwork. Pls learn to analyze. You sound so dumb saying what you said..

they were lopsided fights because they were all inferior fighters.

rios biggest win is Alvarado
algeiri biggest win was a controversial decision against ruslan
clottey lost every big fight he ever fought
mosley was coming off of losing 11 rounds too Floyd and a draw with mora.

pacquiao was supposed too dominate every one of those fighters you mentioned.

[DeadLikeMe]

so did pacquiao,mosley,and cotto duck paul williams too?

if you say no you are hypocrit

Don't forget Pac ducked Casa too. Additionally Pac is like 5-2-1 against southpaws and most of the wins are against cab drivers. If we really want to talk about someone being kept away from southpaws because he sucks against them

[DeadLikeMe]

they were lopsided fights because they were all inferior fighters.

rios biggest win is Alvarado
algeiri biggest win was a controversial decision against ruslan
clottey lost every big fight he ever fought
mosley was coming off of losing 11 rounds too Floyd and a draw with mora.

pacquiao was supposed too dominate every one of those fighters you mentioned.

Clottey lost to Baldomir.