HBOs Mayweather/Pacquiao: The Legends Speak thoughts

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  • Skip Bayless
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    #31
    awesome analysis. a+

    bernard made a great point, points are scored by judges for punches that dont land all the time. pac has to let his hands go and even grazing punches will be met with massive fanfare but as lewis said u have to catch up to him in order to hit him.

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    • lacson
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      #32
      Originally posted by PivotandRoll
      Manny is 99% of the time an all out attacking fighter( I did not say face first brawler so don't start crying) so if an attacking fighter is getting the better of things he will most likely be dominating the rounds as opposed to a defensive fighter......if you can't understand that then just end it now
      Morales and Marquez were the only once that matched Pac and that's because they came forward and took risks.

      Defensive fighters or so called boxers against Pac gets blown away, look at Algieri, Ledwaba, Mosley, Bradley, Cotto ran, Barrera ran, Solis, Larios. Even Marquez when he was running got dropped 3 times in their first fight. He changed and took risks to match Pac.

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      • lacson
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        #33
        Only George knew what he was talking about.

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        • PivotandRoll
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          #34
          Originally posted by lacson
          Morales and Marquez were the only once that matched Pac and that's because they came forward and took risks.

          Defensive fighters or so called boxers against Pac gets blown away, look at Algieri, Ledwaba, Mosley, Bradley, Cotto ran, Barrera ran, Solis, Larios. Even Marquez when he was running got dropped 3 times in their first fight. He changed and took risks to match Pac.
          Wow you really didn't understand....you moron. If Floyd is moving backwards, avoiding punches and landing counter shots....it still gives the impression that it's closer than in reality because the other guy is coming forward(although he's missing)

          Now if Manny is attacking (which he does) and landing(winning) while the other guys is going backwards, of course it's going to appear that he is being more dominant.

          That is just styles....and NO!! Marquez never comes forward against Manny(have you actually watched the fights? He lost them all BTW) he always stays in his rhythm moving backwards and to the right.

          Mosley and Cotto defensive? No they were forced into defence which is why they weren't effective.

          Manny is an amazing fighter.... but he's not a thinker

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          • lacson
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            #35
            Originally posted by PivotandRoll
            Wow you really didn't understand....you moron. If Floyd is moving backwards, avoiding punches and landing counter shots....it still gives the impression that it's closer than in reality because the other guy is coming forward(although he's missing)

            Now if Manny is attacking (which he does) and landing(winning) while the other guys is going backwards, of course it's going to appear that he is being more dominant.

            That is just styles....and NO!! Marquez never comes forward against Manny(have you actually watched the fights? He lost them all BTW) he always stays in his rhythm moving backwards and to the right.

            Mosley and Cotto defensive? No they were forced into defence which is why they weren't effective.

            Manny is an amazing fighter.... but he's not a thinker
            I'll ignore your childish comments, son.

            Marquez fights Pac fire with fire. It's a dance, he doesn't run, he still stays in front. Just because people say he's a counter puncher doesn't mean he runs. He counter punch just like Pac counter punch.

            Regarding Mosley, he ran for 12 rounds, he didn't take any risks and lost all 12 rounds.

            Cotto, fought for 5 rounds and got beat up, then he ran for the rest of the fight and still got beat up, lost 12 rounds.

            These are elites, son. Are you enlightened yet? Like Pac says Mayweather can run but he cannot hide, day of reckoning is coming.

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            • SplitSecond
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              #36
              mosley is a ****ing ******

              "i have never been hit that casually derp"

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              • lacson
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                #37
                Cotto saying that the guy who shows NO FEAR wins. That wasn't a too subtle way of who he thinks will win, lol.

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                • OutClassed
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                  #38
                  enough!!..

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                  • Reloaded
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
                    Love George Foreman! Dude said it best that counter punchers don't like to fight. You could see he kinda doesn't like Floyd.
                    George was the only one to pick Manny .

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                    • PivotandRoll
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by lacson
                      I'll ignore your childish comments, son.

                      Marquez fights Pac fire with fire. It's a dance, he doesn't run, he still stays in front. Just because people say he's a counter puncher doesn't mean he runs. He counter punch just like Pac counter punch.

                      Regarding Mosley, he ran for 12 rounds, he didn't take any risks and lost all 12 rounds.

                      Cotto, fought for 5 rounds and got beat up, then he ran for the rest of the fight and still got beat up, lost 12 rounds.

                      These are elites, son. Are you enlightened yet? Like Pac says Mayweather can run but he cannot hide, day of reckoning is coming.
                      No it's not a dance you twat, it's a fight. Marquez moves backwards and to his his right and likes to dip down on to his front foot, Marquez is one of my favourite fighters so don't try and tell me how he fights.

                      We were talking about how Manny dominates defensive fighters remember? Cotto and Mosley are offensive fighters that were put on the defence by Manny's power.

                      We'll see if your still around May 3rd.

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