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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #21
    Originally posted by Wicky
    What fight? There is no fight without Hearn's money.
    Hearn's money

    Sky gave Hearn a monopoly. That doesn't give him the right to try to dictate terms to A-side fighters. And that doesn't mean other fighters just have to accept any shoddy terms he throws at them.

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    • Wicky
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      #22
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Hearn's money

      Sky gave Hearn a monopoly. That doesn't give him the right to try to dictate terms to A-side fighters. And that doesn't mean other fighters just have to accept any shoddy terms he throws at them.
      I don't care who's actual money it is. Hearn holds the purse strings on this. Frampton either accepts the terms offered or doesn't get a pay day.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Wicky
        I don't care who's actual money it is. Hearn holds the purse strings on this. Frampton either accepts the terms offered or doesn't get a pay day.
        And Quigg does?

        The money generated by the fight would be predominantly down to Frampton so he deserves at least a 60/40 split on the revenue.

        Not hard to comprehend.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          And Quigg does?
          Both need each other, but Quigg's not the one turning the payday down. Plus, Quigg's still got Hearn's backing no matter what.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Wicky
            60/40 to the winner is fair. 60/40 to Frampton for a loss isn't. Frampton's team got greedy. He should sack his advisers, they let him down.
            Yeah, but there is only one genuine World Champion in that fight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Wicky
              Both need each other, but Quigg's not the one turning the payday down. Plus, Quigg's still got Hearn's backing no matter what.
              And what does that mean? Every fighter who has Hearn's backing should get to dictate the terms of every fight?

              Quigg is turning the payday down. Just indirectly. 60/40 to Frampton which is what it should be and the fight gets made but Hearn refuses to negotiate.

              Frampton can fight anyone in Belfast in front of sell out crowds and still earn more than Quigg if he fought Donaire.

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                #27
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                an audience numbering in the millions, which a ppv featuring quigg will never get or any of his jaunts on skysports.
                Yep, millions who don't care about the sport and won't buy tickets to a show, and would never pay for a PPV. Let's see how much money that makes him.

                Case in point: James degale got millions of viewers on channel 5 and was fighting in shopping centres against nobodies.
                Last edited by MBE; 04-26-2015, 06:43 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Box-Office
                  Yeah, but there is only one genuine World Champion in that fight.
                  The phrase "world champion" is pretty meaningless when talking about either of these two. Rigo owns both of them. This is about business plain and simple: what can be made and for how much, ie. what will sell. It's pretty simple... Hearn has made Frampton 2 separate offers. The answer is "yes" or "no", not "I'm a princess and I deserve more". If Frampton can raise the funds he should do so and make a counter offer, otherwise take the money, give Quigg a pasting and move on.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Wicky
                    The phrase "world champion" is pretty meaningless when talking about either of these two. Rigo owns both of them. This is about business plain and simple: what can be made and for how much, ie. what will sell. It's pretty simple... Hearn has made Frampton 2 separate offers. The answer is "yes" or "no", not "I'm a princess and I deserve more". If Frampton can raise the funds he should do so and make a counter offer, otherwise take the money, give Quigg a pasting and move on.
                    But he does deserve more. It's not about being a "princess", it's just about getting what you are worth.

                    He's the real world champion. His fans will sell out the arena and his fans will drive the PPV numbers so how can you offer him a flat rate fee with all the revenue going to Matchroom?

                    How can you offer 50/50 or 60/40 to the "winner" when you are the B-side in the fight? Scott Quigg is an absolute nobody - even in his hometown.

                    Just because he has Hearn's backing doesn't mean he has the right to dictate terms to Frampton.

                    If Quigg stopped being a Princess and Hearn stopped being a smarmy chancer then the fight would happen. Take the lesser cut which is what you deserve, beat Frampton and then you get the bigger cut in the rematch.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      But he does deserve more. It's not about being a "princess", it's just about getting what you are worth.

                      He's the real world champion. His fans will sell out the arena and his fans will drive the PPV numbers so how can you offer him a flat rate fee with all the revenue going to Matchroom?

                      How can you offer 50/50 or 60/40 to the "winner" when you are the B-side in the fight? Scott Quigg is an absolute nobody - even in his hometown.

                      Just because he has Hearn's backing doesn't mean he has the right to dictate terms to Frampton.

                      If Quigg stopped being a Princess and Hearn stopped being a smarmy chancer then the fight would happen. Take the lesser cut which is what you deserve, beat Frampton and then you get the bigger cut in the rematch.
                      What's all this "has the right" nonsense you're talking about? Hearn can do what he likes. It doesn't matter who's the champion. If Frampton wants a guaranteed purse somebody has put up the money. Hearn's perfectly entitled to make Frampton any offer he likes. If Frampton feels he can better offer elsewhere he should go after that, but who else is making him a 1.5 mill offer?

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