Post Klitschko-Jennings thoughts: clinching and PUSHING against the rules?

[mick1303]

The first Foreman-Fraser fight is repeated a lot. I'm sure everyone saw it. What did Foreman do? Every time Fraser got close, Foreman pushed him away and kept at a comfortable distance for his own punches to be the most effective. I don't remember hearing a lot of complaints about this.

[jas]

Wlad looked the worst I've ever seen him

[LacedUp]

Klitschko apologists claiming Jennings at fault for the clinching. Lol. Same guys who tried to convince us that Povetkin was at fault in their fight.

I don't even care about the clinching. We know it's there and yesterday wasn't even bad. What was wrong with this fight was that he fought a guy that shouldn't be in the ring with him. If Klitschko was only allowed to jab he'd still win. Jennings is a tough guy and bla bla, but honestly, he has limited skills and power. As predicted it was a waste of time fight. The only surprise is that Jennings didn't end up on his back.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Why is there a question mark in the thread title?

[ИATAS]

The first Foreman-Fraser fight is repeated a lot. I'm sure everyone saw it. What did Foreman do? Every time Fraser got close, Foreman pushed him away and kept at a comfortable distance for his own punches to be the most effective. I don't remember hearing a lot of complaints about this.

The first foreman Frazier fight? Uh maybe because Frazier got knocked down three times in the first round and three more times in the second round. Frazier got absolutely destroyed.

[bojangles1987]

You're not supposed to be allowed to excessively grab and push. It's in the rules. Wlad almost always excessively grabs and pushes.

Frankly, the ref should have delivered on his warnings earlier. He gave like 4 or 5 "One more and I'll take a point" warnings before actually doing it.

[bojangles1987]

Wlad looked the worst I've ever seen him

And it's not a coincidence that this is the only fight I can think of where he couldn't clinch whenever he wants. Wlad needs to clinch, because he isn't comfortable in a real fight. Cheating is how he protects himself.

[Foreign Soil]

And it's not a coincidence that this is the only fight I can think of where he couldn't clinch whenever he wants. Wlad needs to clinch, because he isn't comfortable in a real fight. Cheating is how he protects himself.

Protect himself from what? Jennings couldn't land anything to the head. Wlad looks better when he doesn't rely on the clinch - forces him to mount an offense.

[PivotandRoll]

Dude, it wasn't BLATANT Mark Coleman style shoving though. It wasn't even a shove, it was literally just keeping Jennings off of him for a bit with some nudges. Some level of ****ing contact should be given. HOWEVER, boxing rules do state that pushing isn't allowed. NO ****ing rules state that clinching isn't allowed.

The ref took a point here, clearly. How many times did Jennings dive in with his head low leaving ONE possible outcome? A CLINCH. Dude if he's so low that he can't be hit, it's basically him coming in with a free shot if clinching isn't allowed. If clinching is to be banned, so should coming in with your head low and getting under someone's armpit and slamming them in the ribs.

The point still REMAINS though, is a referee justified in deducting a point for something that is clearly ALLOWED in modern boxing rules?

Rigondeauz does a thing were he makes guys miss while in a Philly Shell and pushes them off with his shoulder....every single time he has done this he has been warned.....Whether you agree or not is not relevant...it's against the rules and rightly so...Oh I don't feel like fighting you right now so I'll just push you or hold you? Infighting should be done the way James Toney does it..