Elite British Prospects - Better Than America?

[Shanus]

oh yeah snooker!, dont like that myself. I love football more than I could ever love boxing, but most football fans are into boxing to, remember Lennox fights?, I remember even when I was about 17 the last time Lewis fought against Klitchko me and my mates went to a pool hall to watch the fight and it was ****ing rammed at 2 in the morning. Lewis fights were like England internationals and I never really liked Lewis all that much. To be fair people still generally bum off heavyweights over here if we had another Brit Heavyweight contender interest would spark up to new levels even if it is a weak division. But I dont think boxing is on the slide really. We have the man at both 168 and 140.

I wouldn't count Audley out totally, he came off an extremely close loss, I'm not a fan but his awkwardness could cause a problem for smaller fighters.
Don't forget Clinton Woods, IBF light heavy weight fighter.

[Easy-E]

I know amateur boxing 'doesnt mean ****' on this board, and I'm not trying to start any UK vs US **** either.

But there are a bunch of Limey boxing prospects right now, from Elite backgrounds, that I'd just like to bring to your attention..

Amir Khan - 2003 International Junior Olympic gold medalist, 2004 Olympic Games silver medalist (losing only to the best lb4lb amateur of the last 10 years, and later avenging the defeat in both of their last ever amateur bouts!)

John O'Donnell - 2003 International Junior Olympic gold medalist

Kevin Mitchell - 2001 International Junior Olympic silver medalist, youngest ever winner of senior ABA title

David Haye - 2001 Senior World Championship silver medalist

Carl Froch - 2001 Senior World Championship bronze medalist (first British boxer to ever win a medal at senior world championships) - floored his Russian semi-final opponent in 30 seconds (his opponent went on to win the gold medal), knocked out Rubin Williams in 30 seconds at the England vs USA match

Roman Greenberg - 2000 Junior World Championship silver medalist, Angelo Dundee claims he has the fastest hands of any heavyweight since Muhammad Ali

Ricky Hatton - 1996 Junior World Championship bronze medalist (his semi-final loss to the Russian that went on to win the gold medal is considered to be the worst robbery in amateur boxing of the last 10 years)

Joe Calzaghe - 1990 Junior European Championship robbery and it was reported to of made Roy Jones Jr's loss to Park Si-Hun look fair by comparison (the Eastern European he was robbed against in Eastern Europe went to win the gold medal and then won the world championships the following year), won three senior ABA titles at three different weights


These cats all want to hit the States!

(I know.. Hatton and Calzaghe aren't exactly prospects, they've already had their career-defining fights, but I thought I'd throw them in anyway)

I don't want to get into any UK vs US ****, but I'm just pointing out a fact that no US amateur was rated ahead of those guys in their category in the amateurs other than one kid over Kevin Mitchell.

My personal pick as the best of the bunch is darkhorse John O'Donnell, who is over-shadowed by Amir Khan and Kevin Mitchell. O'Donnell holds his own with Carl Froch in sparring. I believe O'Donnell is the full package, a sound technical boxer who is always looking to add moves and punches to his repertoire - he only opens up when he needs to and has some real good speed of hand when needed. And I genuinely have never known or known of a more confident, assured young boxer than John O'Donnell - he actually genuinely believes he'd expose Khan and Mitchell on the same night.

if u werent trying to start ****, you probably should have checked your title. your comparing the us and the uk which is obviously going to ruffle some feathers.
"Elite British Prospects" would have done just fine

[JuicyJuice]

if u werent trying to start ****, you probably should have checked your title. your comparing the us and the uk which is obviously going to ruffle some feathers.
"Elite British Prospects" would have done just fine

Maybe.....

[OptimusWolf]

Haha, I like this thread, and cheers for the info on US prospects - tongue in cheek and otherwise - I'm a bit of a sport nut in general and I wouldn't put boxing very high up in the UK at all.

I'd have it

Football
Cricket
Rugby
Tennis
Snooker
Horse Racing (its not a sport though in my eyes)
Boxing

For me its Football, cricket then Boxing and rugby pretty much head to head for the bronze.

What would life be without sport though I ask.

[PunchDrunk]

Jeff Lacy and Sam Peter aren't prospects anymore, they are at a world championship level.
The main prospects in the US IMO atm are.
Allan Green
Sechew Powell
Ishe Smith.

What's Ishe Smith paying you to put his name in there?

[The Wire]

fighting in europe dosent make u elite anyway...their full of bums..how many ppl were undefeated in europe..came to america and got knocked out by a average fighter?

Who came to America and got knocked out then? Lennox Lewis(Avenged both his losses with punch perfect KOs)? Honeghan? Nas (Nas got beaten by a Mexican, and a great Mexican at that and he won rounds. America had no more to do with it than the Phillipines had anything to do with Ali beating Frasier)? Bernard Dunne? John Duddy? Matthew Macklin? Barry Mcguigan? John H Stracey? Nigel Benn? Steve Collins? Ken Buchanan (won the title in the states, got knocked out by an illegal punch by one of the greatest fighters of all time who was in his ferocious peak). All these fighters are or were British and won in the States against great fighters let alone average fighters.

Gerald Mclellan, Jeff Lacy, Iran Barkley, Don Curry, Hasim Rahman, Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran, Kostya Tszyu, Eusebio Pedroza etc etc - all great fighters knocked out or beaten by British fighters.

I'm not saying that Britain is better than the US, but the US isn't the mecca of boxing you wish it was.

[Crumble]

how many ppl were undefeated in europe..came to america and got knocked out by a average fighter?

give us some examples.

[oldgringo]

Chad Dawson is as good as anyone on that list. The kid looks to have the goods for real.

[The Wire]

I've seen him fight live and you're right, he does look good.

[trinidadpr87]

Chad Dawson is as good as anyone on that list. The kid looks to have the goods for real.

I've been putting his name on here about a year ago before anybody really knew him.Dawson is big,powerful,fast and has good technical skills.The only thing i don't like is what his team is doing and that is moving him up to light heavyweight.