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  • #21
    Terribly biased article indeed. It is not Al Haymon's fault that Robert Guerrero, Jhonny Gonzalez, Josesito Lopez or John Molina (I had to laugh at this one) are not good enough to take advantage of the opportunities that were given to them. If you look at it from a different angle, Guerrero should have never shared the ring with Floyd, Josesito was offered a chance to revive his career as well, Molina did not deserve the Broner fight, and Jhonny was simply making a defense, but against a worthy challenger this time. Vasquez was robbed, but this is hardly enough to start creating conspiracy theories.

    This writer sounds butthurt because some important Mexican boxers have been taking losses lately. He mentions the tough fights some of them have been in, but conveniently fails to mention all the soft opponents Mares and Santa Cruz have been fed in their last few fights. It is guys like Chavez Jr. and Santa Cruz who are hurting Mexican boxing, not Al Haymon. At the end of the day, good Mexican fighters will get the job done, the others will lose. Simple as that.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Loque-san View Post
      Terribly biased article indeed. It is not Al Haymon's fault that Robert Guerrero, Jhonny Gonzalez, Josesito Lopez or John Molina (I had to laugh at this one) are not good enough to take advantage of the opportunities that were given to them. If you look at it from a different angle, Guerrero should have never shared the ring with Floyd, Josesito was offered a chance to revive his career as well, Molina did not deserve the Broner fight, and Jhonny was simply making a defense, but against a worthy challenger this time. Vasquez was robbed, but this is hardly enough to start creating conspiracy theories.

      This writer sounds butthurt because some important Mexican boxers have been taking losses lately. He mentions the tough fights some of them have been in, but conveniently fails to mention all the soft opponents Mares and Santa Cruz have been fed in their last few fights. It is guys like Chavez Jr. and Santa Cruz who are hurting Mexican boxing, not Al Haymon. At the end of the day, good Mexican fighters will get the job done, the others will lose. Simple as that.
      It's really not hard to laugh at this article. I bet he threw trash in the ring when Chavez Lost.

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      • #23
        protection

        wah-wah-wah he is not protecting my fav ethnic fighter. **** is hilarious.
        Last edited by MASTERBX; 04-22-2015, 05:28 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by MASTERBX View Post
          wah-wah-wah his is not protecting my fav ethnic fighter. **** is hilarious.
          I doubt the author even cares about John Molina, Robert Guerrero, Johnny Gonzalez and Josesito Lopez. If Canelo loses, I bet the author would blame Al Haymon if Canelo lost to Kirkland and the funny thing is that he is not involved in that matchup.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
            I heard a rumor haymon makes arreola put in a feeding tube so he can eat while he sleeps, not sure if true or not tho
            That is absolutely untrue.

            Arreola is a finely-tuned athlete with years and years of practice built into his DNA: he can eat while he sleeps without a tube.

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            • #26
              I can see both sides of the coin on this. Personally, I do think Haymon does favor black boxers but the same couldve been said for Oscar and Mexican/Mexican American Boxers. For guys like Guerrero and Chavez, I see them losing due to their own inactivity not saying they wouldve won if they were more active but it definitely wouldve helped. In the case of Miguel Vasquez, I totally seen that coming and if no one else did their blind, Haymon signed Vasquez with a promise of the world to get his favored one a title. In the case of Gonzalez, C'mon lets be real, he'd been KO'd twice before Russell so he was Russells stepping stone but like I said he really wasnt that good so to me it doesnt make Russell all that but its Haymons boy. As for Abner Mares personally i think he was ill advised by GBP to fight Gonzalez at that weight despite him beating Ponce de Leon (who was flawed) when Mares beat him. Mares shouldve won the title against PDL and dropped back down in weight, he was to small and to young to rush through titles. It hurt me to see Josesito lose but again lets be real, he looked like crap in the 2 fights prior to Berto, getting knocked down by journeymen on ESPN, him vs Berto to me was a 50/50 fight going in. Josesito was also ill advised to go up and fight Canelo which I think ruined him. John Molina Jr.s best win was a loss, and Broner looked like a fish out of water beating that 1 armed bandit. As for Leo Santa Cruz, well he named his first born Al not much more I can say except once Rigo signs to PBC, you will be bait next.

              So to conclude, I do think Haymon is favoring "certain" fighters but I'll be the 1st Mexican (American) to admit, Mexican fighters all need to quit thinking their Julio Cesar Chavez. A new breed of Mexican fighter(s) need to be born, you cant win every fight head first. Skillz pay the bills nowadays and inactivity is a killer. Mexican fighters need to do for themselves and win if they want to be with Haymon cause daddy has his favorites and you are not them, sorry, shoulda stood with Oscar if you wanted the easier route, I dont feel bad for any of the Mexicans that ran to Haymon, I hope they all lose quite honest.

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              • #27
                Damn but that's the dumbest article I've read in a long time.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
                  I can see both sides of the coin on this. Personally, I do think Haymon does favor black boxers but the same couldve been said for Oscar and Mexican/Mexican American Boxers. For guys like Guerrero and Chavez, I see them losing due to their own inactivity not saying they wouldve won if they were more active but it definitely wouldve helped. In the case of Miguel Vasquez, I totally seen that coming and if no one else did their blind, Haymon signed Vasquez with a promise of the world to get his favored one a title. In the case of Gonzalez, C'mon lets be real, he'd been KO'd twice before Russell so he was Russells stepping stone but like I said he really wasnt that good so to me it doesnt make Russell all that but its Haymons boy. As for Abner Mares personally i think he was ill advised by GBP to fight Gonzalez at that weight despite him beating Ponce de Leon (who was flawed) when Mares beat him. Mares shouldve won the title against PDL and dropped back down in weight, he was to small and to young to rush through titles. It hurt me to see Josesito lose but again lets be real, he looked like crap in the 2 fights prior to Berto, getting knocked down by journeymen on ESPN, him vs Berto to me was a 50/50 fight going in. Josesito was also ill advised to go up and fight Canelo which I think ruined him. John Molina Jr.s best win was a loss, and Broner looked like a fish out of water beating that 1 armed bandit. As for Leo Santa Cruz, well he named his first born Al not much more I can say except once Rigo signs to PBC, you will be bait next.

                  So to conclude, I do think Haymon is favoring "certain" fighters but I'll be the 1st Mexican (American) to admit, Mexican fighters all need to quit thinking their Julio Cesar Chavez. A new breed of Mexican fighter(s) need to be born, you cant win every fight head first. Skillz pay the bills nowadays and inactivity is a killer. Mexican fighters need to do for themselves and win if they want to be with Haymon cause daddy has his favorites and you are not them, sorry, shoulda stood with Oscar if you wanted the easier route, I dont feel bad for any of the Mexicans that ran to Haymon, I hope they all lose quite honest.
                  John Molina was talking all that **** to Broner, he wanted the fight, he got the fight, and he got his ass beat. All in all, this is a solid post.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
                    So to conclude, I do think Haymon is favoring "certain" fighters but I'll be the 1st Mexican (American) to admit, Mexican fighters all need to quit thinking their Julio Cesar Chavez. A new breed of Mexican fighter(s) need to be born, you cant win every fight head first. Skillz pay the bills nowadays and inactivity is a killer. Mexican fighters need to do for themselves and win if they want to be with Haymon cause daddy has his favorites and you are not them, sorry, shoulda stood with Oscar if you wanted the easier route, I dont feel bad for any of the Mexicans that ran to Haymon, I hope they all lose quite honest.
                    I couldnt have said it better myself......

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by JulianQ View Post
                      Damn but that's the dumbest article I've read in a long time.
                      It's as if while you were reading it, you can imagine that the author was crying while he was writing it.

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