Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Fight Was Not Close, Matthysse Moving On

[joesaiditstrue]

Scored the fight a draw. Interested in the outcome without the early head-butt. Nonetheless the scores were fair. Worthy of a rematch down the road. Oscar is talking as a promoter, which he is, with the whole "the fight wasn't even close". That's nonsense. Provo could and should have at least scored a knockdown with a bit more aggression in the 11th and perhaps 12th rounds.

i rewatched the fight (initially scored it 7-5 for lucas, 8-4 2nd time thru)

if you score all the close rounds for Ruslan you could score it a draw, but that's a stretch

those of you (not you, but speaking generally) who were live at the fight, stop posting bull****. you dont score fights when you're there live, you're drinking beer, hootin and hollerin

[LacedUp]

It was clearly close and I'll bet Provo had won if it was a 15 round fight.

Problem with Matthysse is he seems go gas when the fight goes longer. Tonight he just stopped punching in the last 2-3 rounds.

[krazyn8tive]

I agree a lot of people giving rounds to Ruslan simply because he didn't go down from all the abuse. But Lucas was landing so many more shots and they were mostly bombs. Any other fighter would of been Ko'd. Ruslan has great heart and chin but lost pretty clearly. Lucas harder puncher and landed over 100 punches and totally rearranged Ruslan face.

I agree. It seems that judging lately has shown an utter disregard for scoring jabs. Unless those jabs come from mayweather or broner. Anyone else, it seems like they don't matter to those scoring the fights

[Robbie Barrett]

Fight wasn't close at all, too many people are influenced by crowd/commentators.

[nathan_nall]

Fight wasn't close at all, too many people are influenced by crowd/commentators.

Who, in turn, are both influenced by the fight they are seeing take place in front of them. If they "ooh" and "ahh", it's because at least one of the fighters is putting on a show at that moment. They weren't imagining Provodnikov's rallies. And from what I gather, it was a mixed crowd. Matthysse got his equal shair of "oohing" and "ahhing" which the judges and commentators heard as well.

Judging a fight isn't a hard science like physics and chemistry. It's an opinion. That is why we have 3 judges and not just one. It's to come to a consensus. When scores are all over the place, who got it "right" is anyone's guess.

When all three judges have it within a razor thin margin of a round or two, they saw the fight as it truly occured. You aren't likely to find many to argue with the results. Matthysse squeaked by on a mouse fart.

[Robbie Barrett]

Who, in turn, are both influenced by the fight they are seeing take place in front of them. If they "ooh" and "ahh", it's because at least one of the fighters is putting on a show at that moment. They weren't imagining Provodnikov's rallies. And from what I gather, it was a mixed crowd. Matthysse got his equal shair of "oohing" and "ahhing" which the judges and commentators heard as well.

Judging a fight isn't a hard science like physics and chemistry. It's an opinion. That is why we have 3 judges and not just one. It's to come to a consensus. When scores are all over the place, who got it "right" is anyone's guess.

When all three judges have it within a razor thin margin of a round or two, they saw the fight as it truly occured. You aren't likely to find many to argue with the results. Matthysse squeaked by on a mouse fart.

The majority of the crowd was Provodnikov fans it was almost silent in the arena when he was getting beat to a pulp in the first half of the fight.

Fans and judges don't have the great viewing angles we see on TV. Provodnikov was flurrying 8 punch combo's and landing 0 but the crowd was going wild.

Judges are influenced by the crowd everyone that has followed boxing in the slightest know this as a fact. It seems that HBO's bias has influenced Americans. I watched it on Boxnation and everyone had Matthysse as the clear winner by a few rounds.

[joesaiditstrue]

if you wanna see some ridiculous ****

rewatch rounds 2 and 6, OMG..

[MDPopescu]

that fight was controversial due to the knockdown call that the ref messed up on as well as letting garcia low-blow more than golota. without that call matthysse would have won on the cards. garcia should have done the honorable thing and rematched matthysse but he fought herrera and salka for some strange reason. this fight was not controversial at all. just a good fight, if a rematch happens cool but there were no blown calls that affected the outcome.

... That fight was lost because that ****** eye accident -- and Danny knows he would have lost it otherwise... That's why Danny will never give Lucas the rematch.

[joesaiditstrue]

... That fight was lost because that ****** eye accident -- and Danny knows he would have lost it otherwise... That's why Danny will never give Lucas the rematch.

come on dude, i can agree on the low blow bull**** and the bogus knockdown
but the eye thing, granted it was a fluke, algieri beat ruslan with one eye

[MDPopescu]

The majority of the crowd was Provodnikov fans it was almost silent in the arena when he was getting beat to a pulp in the first half of the fight.

Fans and judges don't have the great viewing angles we see on TV. Provodnikov was flurrying 8 punch combo's and landing 0 but the crowd was going wild.

Judges are influenced by the crowd everyone that has followed boxing in the slightest know this as a fact. It seems that HBO's bias has influenced Americans. I watched it on Boxnation and everyone had Matthysse as the clear winner by a few rounds.

The half-Mansi savage will always be the crowds' darling! He's so genuine a brawler!!!