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  • #11
    Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post


    Peterson did absolutely nothing early and lost every round up until the 8th, with the exception of the 3rd on my card and also lost one on the championship rounds (9) ... Which brings us to 7-5 Garcia. Post your scorecard and let's honestly debate it.

    Rounds for Garcia : 1,2,4,5,6,7,9... (Rounds 1 and 10 were swing rounds)
    Clean punches... I need to see some round by round punch stats for any argument of Garcia winning a single round 1-4. I've heard through the first 5 rounds Peterson only landed 15 punches (haven't seen it myself) does anyone know how many Garcia landed? Or better yet have a link to the round by round (I've seen the end of fight totals... In which Peterson landed 50% of his power punches).

    Effective aggression... Coming forward isn't scoring points, trapping your opponent against the ropes, throwing and touching your opponent, out working/ coming in behind a jab is all effective (effective being the key word) aggression which was missing from Garcia 1-4 heck the entire fight but two or three rounds.

    Defense... Is there a question who had the better defense throughout the fight?

    Ring generalship... Is there a question about who couldn't corner whom or who picked the pace of the fight? I really don't see an argument for Garcia.

    1 Peterson
    2 toss up
    3 draw
    4 Peterson
    5 Garcia
    6 Garcia
    7 toss up
    8 Peterson
    9 Garcia
    10 Peterson
    11 Peterson
    12 Peterson

    First and second watch I gave my toss up rounds to Peterson but for argument sake we will say they can go either way (this is my 4th watch now lol). You have to give Garcia (and that's what it is, giving because he darn sure didn't steal or even work for them) every close round to have him win. This fight reminded me of donaire rigo, moving forward without throwing punches doesn't win rounds (even if your opponent is only throwing 20 punches a round) but willie pep would tell you lateral movement coupled with head movement (defense and generalship) does. Each round save 5 and 6 should have been at worst a draw following the scoring criteria. The only bias on my part is expecting more from Garcia, being from philly, and hating Peterson (before the fight).

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    • #12
      What this article is missing is how this guy scored it (round by round).

      Also, he scored the Maidana I fight like it was an easy win for Floyd but couldn't stomach the judge who had it a draw. Why?

      If last Saturday it was Floyd who fought that same fight that Peterson fought, those scores would have looked very different. No way would they be giving Garcia 5 of 6 first rounds over Floyd and no way would the other judge have given Garcia all 6 rounds. NO WAY. The way he wrote this article, this guy wouldn't either.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        What this article is missing is how this guy scored it (round by round).

        Also, he scored the Maidana I fight like it was an easy win for Floyd but couldn't stomach the judge who had it a draw. Why?

        If last Saturday it was Floyd who fought that same fight that Peterson fought, those scores would have looked very different. No way would they be giving Garcia 5 of 6 first rounds over Floyd and no way would the other judge have given Garcia all 6 rounds. NO WAY. The way he wrote this article, this guy wouldn't either.
        Floyd would have actually landed punches while moving unlike Peterson. Moving =/= boxing unless you snapping your opponents head back while doing the moving.

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        • #14
          The judging was fine. I wonder if the deadness of the atmosphere at the PBC events is contributing to better scoring? Ideally judges should be in a sound-proofed booth anyway. Or have their eardrums burst if you want to get serious about it.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Mr 117-111 View Post
            Floyd would have actually landed punches while moving unlike Peterson. Moving =/= boxing unless you snapping your opponents head back while doing the moving.
            The question is if Floyd did the exact same thing as Peterson on Saturday, would the judges have Floyd losing 5-1 or 6-0?

            Can you respond to that question?

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            • #16
              I wonder how much Al Haymon has to pay for damage control to these sell out scribes.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                What this article is missing is how this guy scored it (round by round).

                Also, he scored the Maidana I fight like it was an easy win for Floyd but couldn't stomach the judge who had it a draw. Why?

                If last Saturday it was Floyd who fought that same fight that Peterson fought, those scores would have looked very different. No way would they be giving Garcia 5 of 6 first rounds over Floyd and no way would the other judge have given Garcia all 6 rounds. NO WAY. The way he wrote this article, this guy wouldn't either.
                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                The question is if Floyd did the exact same thing as Peterson on Saturday, would the judges have Floyd losing 5-1 or 6-0?

                Can you respond to that question?
                Why are you trying to make tis discussion about Floyd? He has nothing to do with how the judges scored the fights this past Saturday.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
                  It's hard to give Garcia any round aside from a few, he never really controlled any of them.
                  Yea Garcia had to chase Peterson for 8 ends!! I'm a fan of both, but I didn't think Peterson did enough to win the fight. He use good foot movement, but threw jabs the first half of the fight! He would show boat like Roy JR just to throw another Jab! I feel like you have to beat the champ!

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                  • #19
                    I thought it was some of the fairest judging I had seen in some time myself. There wasn't one scorecard I'd question.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      The question is if Floyd did the exact same thing as Peterson on Saturday, would the judges have Floyd losing 5-1 or 6-0?

                      Can you respond to that question?
                      Floyd don't fight like that!! The dude had ring generalship but didn't throw the punches to make it count! The whole first half he only threw jabs! In my opinion you can't win a championship fight throwing jabs and moving. If he would have followed up with the straight right or some power punches it wouldn't be close, but all he did was jab and show boat!!

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