Can you even call these guys elite level talent?

[PhilPhilly]

Would honestly put Kell Brook ahead of these guys, talent wise.
You can argue that these guys are world class, as they clearly had the dedication and talent to get this far, holding belts re re. However what people fail to understand that at the elite level, there are several levels. Few elite boxers today are may, pac, andre ward, rigondeaux re re

[Espada]

Bradley has the most impressive resume of em all though

[jas]

Good point

Lee quillin Peterson Garcia nowhere near Floyd or Mannys level

Not even on same planet

It's part of why ratings are low

If you're not gonna brawl at least display elite skill and they aren't doing it

Quillin and lee didn't fight like warriors
Don't give a **** what anyone says
They were having a staring contest

And quillin talks about money in his interviews
Why?
I couldn't care less what you getting paid
Just fight hard
But you can't anymore
Hasn't done so in his last few fights

That's why guys like manny , Floyd, golovkin, kovalev, roman, Lucas, Bradley, Thurman amongst others deserve respect, they are a rare breed. They fight hard when need be.

[jas]

Of the guys listed, Thurman , Bradley and khan , I would class as legit. They actually can be competitive with Floyd and manny.
Bradley did win 4 rounds in the rematch.

[CANELOLUJAH]

Seriously the Vernon forest that beat mosley beats every guy on this list. The fernando Vargas that beat quartey beats every guy on this list.....there's light at the end of the tunnel felix Verdejo and spence seem to be the "REAL" deal

I agree. and I will also throw in Jose Ramirez

top 3 I am on the look out for.

Felix Verdejo
Errol Spence
Jose Ramirez

and gonna be the new class and raise back to the skill level.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Keith Thurman will be a superstar within the next two years.

Stardom doesnt = elite

Thurman has the best shot of all. And I firmly believe that he's in line to do so. He's certainly in the right lane.

Bradley kinda borders there already, but I also think Tim has hit his ceiling. Very, very good fighter, but not a great one.

Khan has ridiculous talent, talent in spades. But unless he magically shores up that chin issue, then he'll always be on the next tier down.

The chin isn't the issue. The issue is that he doesn't know how to hide it. He doesn't know how to use his attributes/abilities, etc etc.

Hitman and Wlad "made it" with chin issues.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Believe it or not I think when all the smokes has clear and the field leveled, kell brooks will emerge the best of the bunch. He is definitely the most well rounded of his generation...

I'm not so sure, I still remember Carson Jones putting serious leather on him and Brook not recovering so well. I also remember Senchenko, a none puncher hurting him, as well as the guy he fought before Porter putting leather on him. I think Brook has looked good as of recent but I'm not so sure, Brook is stocky as fuck too, I wonder if he makes the weight well.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

I'm not so sure, I still remember Carson Jones putting serious leather on him and Brook not recovering so well. I also remember Senchenko, a none puncher hurting him, as well as the guy he fought before Porter putting leather on him. I think Brook has looked good as of recent but I'm not so sure, Brook is stocky as fuck too, I wonder if he makes the weight well.

Rigo was put down by much lesser opposition than Doniare.

Just saying.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Rigo was put down by much lesser opposition than Doniare.

Just saying.

Brook was touched up by Jones, he took a lot of punishment in that one where as Rigondeaux has either been rocked/ or dropped but still maintained his dominance.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Brook was touched up by Jones, he took a lot of punishment in that one where as Rigondeaux has either been rocked/ or dropped but still maintained his dominance.

Brook had a bloody nose where he could barely breathe...?

What happened in the rematch? What ended up happening to Senchenko ultimately? Maybe those guys on the list can hurt and put leather on Brook too but will they be able to beat him?

Porter was much better than those "guys" who put leather on Brook and what happened to Brook?