Was Manny Pacquiao ever on peds ?

[Hewito]

The proof would be in the commonsense of anyone that understands why he wouldn't take the test in the first place. In this country in order for most people especially black people a drug screen along with random testing is mandatory to even get a job to support your family. In Pacroid's case he was in the position not only to prove Floyd wrong, but also putting himself in the driver's seat financially during the negotiations. All Pacroid had tk do was have it in writing that upon passing any and all drug screening if it's proven he is a clean fighter the purse split would be I. His favor to the some of 70/30. But I guess his team either isn't that smart or from what I can tell the guy was hiding something and didn't want to chance being caught cheating. It doesn't have to be proven to me since I have commonsense which tells any logical person that if he wasn't juicing he would have taken that test and put Floyd in the most embarrassing situation since the 2nd rd of the Shane Mosley fight. But since he didn't I say the little test ducking juicer was hiding his juicing activities plain and simple. ......

Like someone mentioned earlier,there is no proof,that is a fact,there hasn't been one failed test...You saying that the split was going to be on his favor ,its unrealistic..Now you say his team isn't smart,how bout the money he will make on may 2 and all the money he has made....But if we wanna talk about common sense,here is something for you.We all know mayweahter started the rumor,but since he had to pay Manny a settlement for defamation and then he hires ariza,common sense tells me Mayweather never had any proof nor believes ariza gave him those so-called shakes!

[George Orwell]

Yes and he got away with it. Deal with it.

[Dempsey-Roll]

Pac knocks out a lot of his opponents back at the lower weight divisions because he had power at that weight. Now that he's fighting ww, he can no longer KO any of them because those naturally bigger guys can take the hits.
I think that's a simple explanation on why Pac hasn't literally KO anyone since Hatton.
Pac is a superstitious guy that on his first fight with morales, he got blood withdrawn from him and he felt that was the reason he lost the fight.
He even told Floyd in the first negotiations that he can get his blood drawn AFTER their fight, but Floyd refused.

Honestly, both parties were to blame for not making the fight happen 5 years ago, but it is where it is.

[-Makunouchi-]

Also, the fact Mayweather settled out of court pretty much says it all. Pacquiao's camp was willing to go toe to toe with this defamation suit. TMT, knowing what's at stake ponied up and paid a reported $5 million which is a bargain compared to what was about to come out in public.

This sums it up!

Remember Pac is on the a-side meth! Lol at the mayweatherz

[Hewito]

[QUOTE=George Orwell;15561995]Yes and he got away with it. Deal with it.

That would be great closing argument..Can you imagine,jury asks,"is he guilty?'"
you will say "Yes and he got away with it. Deal with it".

[Left Hook Tua]

Pac knocks out a lot of his opponents back at the lower weight divisions because he had power at that weight. Now that he's fighting ww, he can no longer KO any of them because those naturally bigger guys can take the hits.
I think that's a simple explanation on why Pac hasn't literally KO anyone since Hatton.
Pac is a superstitious guy that on his first fight with morales, he got blood withdrawn from him and he felt that was the reason he lost the fight.
He even told Floyd in the first negotiations that he can get his blood drawn AFTER their fight, but Floyd refused.

Honestly, both parties were to blame for not making the fight happen 5 years ago, but it is where it is.

he got a blood test fight week and got sick/felt weak.

one of his excuses for the morales L.

this was 4-5 years BEFORE floyd/OSDT talk.


just look how hard negotiations was this year. they had to argue about every little thing from name, ring entrance, etc.

and this is with floyd 60-40.

[SplitSecond]

pac will still put anyone on there ass today should he land his 1-2 or any perfect shots like in the past 5 years

he staggered bradley numerous times in the rematch with basically arm punches, with a 1-2 on two occassions, a left uppercut early, an overhand late, put algieri down for the 10 count(but i appreciate the ref not stopping it) with a commited cross, and hurt rios numerous times also

he's still a puncher, but his power has slightly decreased due to his commitment and age

people keep talking about how his ko's dissapeared after the accusations started, but who here actually thinks he was hitting with less power vs clottey, margarito and mosley as oppossed to vs cotto?

[jcpryor]

Also, the fact Mayweather settled out of court pretty much says it all. Pacquiao's camp was willing to go toe to toe with this defamation suit. TMT, knowing what's at stake ponied up and paid a reported $5 million which is a bargain compared to what was about to come out in public.

I'm not saying Manny was or wasn't on PEDs, but him filing a defamation suit proves absolutely nothing. Roger Clements did the same thing. Having to go through the process of a trial for something that u can't prove without inside knowledge is a waste of time.

[ELPacman]

Guy was in his prime 5-6 years ago, and fighting smaller guys. Guy is no longer in his prime & fighting bigger guys, most of whom have never been KO'd before they faced him. Guy looks exactly the same physically.

It's called getting older, finding religion, & fighting bigger opponents. If he was on them & now off, the decline would be steep & he would've lost more than one fight (we don't count Bradley 1)

Ah you and I think a like. It's nice to see some brains on this forum with common sense about, I don't know... prime years?

The only thing I don't completely agree on is that he was fighting smaller guys. Are you talking against, Barrera, Morales, Marquez? They were equal to him. Since then, everyone was larger than him just about.

[WholeSoul75]

All Floyd had to do is be professional instead of trying to discredit his fights and accuse pacman. He could have set up a hotel meeting and discussed ways of cleaning up the sport. it really seems to be about disrupting pacmans camp and straight up hating. Maxboxing article opened some eyes. But now, here it is..court bout to be settled in the ring. Win or lose I think there gonna be a lot of satisfaction just to get in some licks!