if golovkin was smaller and could make 140-147

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  • aldo5408
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    #11
    Originally posted by Weebler I
    It is a slight because his power is a couple of levels above, as is his skill level.

    People think Thurman is a hard punching WW, and he is, but turn it up a couple of levels and you'd get Golovkin. It would be very hard to deal with.

    As to Lomachenko, his amateur record is 396-1. Rigo's is 374-12. Golovkin's is 345-5
    Rigo has 2 gold medals could been 3 if cuba wasn't hating on him. I think rigo and Loma are levels above gg in boxing. But ggg has way morr power

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      #12
      Originally posted by frantic fighter
      His power is not levels above those guys he has thudding power not one punch knockout power,If I recall correctly both Rigo and Loma were multiple time gold medalists while Golovkin with a very fortunate result against Direll was a silver medalist.
      You're acting like that's the only thing he ever accomplished.
      Gold 2003 ****kok Middleweight
      Asian Games
      Gold 2002 Busan Light Middleweight
      Asian Championships
      Gold 2004 Puerto Princesa Middleweight
      Silver 2004 Athens Middleweight

      He consistently fought and beat top opposition throughout his amateur career.

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      • Weebler I
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        #13
        Originally posted by frantic fighter
        His power is not levels above those guys he has thudding power not one punch knockout power,If I recall correctly both Rigo and Loma were multiple time gold medalists while Golovkin with a very fortunate result against Direll was a silver medalist.
        It really is, durable opponents who have never been stopped before get stopped inside 3 rounds. Tell Ishida and Macklin it's not one punch knockout power.

        Golovkin only went to one Olympic games winning silver, before turning pro. Moreover he beat Dirrell clearly and fairly, the fight is on youtube.

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          #14
          Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
          You're acting like that's the only thing he ever accomplished.
          Gold 2003 ****kok Middleweight
          Asian Games
          Gold 2002 Busan Light Middleweight
          Asian Championships
          Gold 2004 Puerto Princesa Middleweight
          Silver 2004 Athens Middleweight

          He consistently fought and beat top opposition throughout his amateur career.
          I think gg KO dirrell in the amateurs no?

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          • Boxfan83
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            #15
            Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
            Not just his resume just watch him fight. Plus his amazing amateur background. Rigondeaux didn't have much of a resume at all either when he whooped Donaire. Same thing people said before the fight too - "who did Rigondeaux ever beat as a pro?"

            There's more to it than solely resume when judging talent obviously. When I watch him fight it's very obvious to me he's a better fighter than Matthysse and Maidana.
            I have seen him fight and honestly he reminds me of a bigger, slightly more technical version of matthysse. I understand ggg had a great amateur background just like Rigo but Rigos win over Donaire is way better than any of ggg's wins probably combined considering Donaire was a p4p fighter at the time. Besides saying ggg would be a top ten fighter at 147 with names like Floyd Mayweather, manny Pacquiao, & Juan Manuel Marquez is pretty damn good considering ggg's opposition...

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              #16
              Originally posted by Weebler I
              It really is, durable opponents who have never been stopped before get stopped inside 3 rounds. Tell Ishida and Macklin it's not one punch knockout power.

              Golovkin only went to one Olympic games winning silver, before turning pro. Moreover he beat Dirrell clearly and fairly, the fight is on youtube.
              He did not clearly beat Direll. Matthysse stopped a Peterson and Soto who had never been stopped before and who are also vastly better opponents than Macklin and Ishida. Like I said he has very good power,but he doesn't have Kovalev level power.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Boxfan83
                I have seen him fight and honestly he reminds me of a bigger, slightly more technical version of matthysse. I understand ggg had a great amateur background just like Rigo but Rigos win over Donaire is way better than any of ggg's wins probably combined considering Donaire was a p4p fighter at the time. Besides saying ggg would be a top ten fighter at 147 with names like Floyd Mayweather, manny Pacquiao, & Juan Manuel Marquez is pretty damn good considering ggg's opposition...
                Not seeing any Mattysse similarities. Actually none at all. Different styles, different techniques, different stances, footwork, pretty much everything. GGG is more similar to someone like Chavez Sr. (obviously there's going to be plenty of difference, just saying style wise).

                Yeah we all know Donaire is a bigger win, the point was prior to that fight people were saying exact same things about Rigondeaux - who did he beat, his resume is weak, etc.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by frantic fighter
                  He did not clearly beat Direll. Matthysse stopped a Peterson and Soto who had never been stopped before and who are also vastly better opponents than Macklin and Ishida. Like I said he has very good power,but he doesn't have Kovalev level power.
                  Yet it was Kovalev who got jobbed and knocked down in sparring by GGG and not the other way around.
                  It's also easy to write off top contenders because after they fought GGG they are not the same anymore. Just like Donaire is perceived now overhyped but in reality he is what he is and Rigo took his soul.

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                  • Dr Rumack
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                    #19
                    His jab and ability to cut the ring off would make him a threat at any weight class. Those are the fundamentals for beating elusive boxers. Throw in his power, his chin, and his combination punching and he becomes a threat to anyone.

                    He has flaws. He's easy to hit and he's not very fast. But he has enough quality to be a problem for all but the very best.

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                    • frantic fighter
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ggg_kz
                      Yet it was Kovalev who got jobbed and knocked down in sparring by GGG and not the other way around.
                      It's also easy to write off top contenders because after they fought GGG they are not the same anymore. Just like Donaire is perceived now overhyped but in reality he is what he is and Rigo took his soul.
                      He hasn't beaten anybody special yet ,I mean guys like Geale and Murray are probably his best wins. Kovalev has said in an interview that he didn't want to seriously hurt Golovkin because they are friends.It should also be noted that Kovalev was out of shape while Golovkin was about to have a fight.

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