Peterson, Quillin and Broner Need to be More Offensive Minded

[-PBP-]

These guys are great to watch when they let their hands go. But they get into a habit of throwing one punch at a time, trying to be boxers when that doesn't suit their abilities.

None of them are great defensively, they don't transition from defense to offense very well and they have periods in fights where they are giving away rounds and making fights closer than they need to be. Very talented fighters but so frustrating to watch.

Maybe time for a change in trainers.

[bojangles1987]

Quillin and Broner have the same problem. They simply aren't intelligent enough to make the adjustments they need to. They need their opponents to do a certain thing or they become confused and very beatable. Their skills are limited and if they can't hurt you, they're in trouble.

Peterson, I understand. He's proven over and over again to be too susceptible early to power, and he needs to be cautious. Problem is he doesn't always pick the right time to throw caution aside and begin doing what he does best. Last night was a great example of that. It is his trainer's job to let him know when it's time to flip that switch. If Hunter can't learn to pick those moments to let Peterson loose, he will cost Peterson fights like he did against Garcia.

[dan_cov]

Quillin is so limited it really did say a lot about Andy Lee. He literally did the same thing from round 1-12. You could count on one hand the amount of punches Quillin threw that wasn't a single right hand.

This guy is not a top MW even in the horrible state it is in.

GGG obviously knocks him out.
Cotto beats him
LeMule obviously knocks him out.
Jacobs puts a whooping on him.
N'Dam can beat him in a rematch, maybe Lee too.

He has no workrate, no ring I.Q, no jab, no footwork, nothing really outside of maybe above average power. As far as skills go, he don't really have any and looks really inexperienced for a former world champion.
He is undefeated, a former world champion so he does deserve respect but the reality is he is pretty awful & painfully limited.

[jas]

Broner is. .

[The Gambler1981]

Quillin has no real defense, but he does have a bit of firepower so it is kind of an odd conundrum he is in because he does not have a stout chin. He is better served by getting the other guy first, but that can also get him got. That is what limits him as a fighter really.


Broner is pretty tough and he has some ideas about defense but he is s much better when he is aggressive so I don't think that could really be argued. Same with Peterson his offense while moving away was junk, but in close he puts in work.

[El-blanco]

Quillin is so limited it really did say a lot about Andy Lee. He literally did the same thing from round 1-12. You could count on one hand the amount of punches Quillin threw that wasn't a single right hand.

This guy is not a top MW even in the horrible state it is in.

GGG obviously knocks him out.
Cotto beats him
LeMule obviously knocks him out.
Jacobs puts a whooping on him.
N'Dam can beat him in a rematch, maybe Lee too.

He has no workrate, no ring I.Q, no jab, no footwork, nothing really outside of maybe above average power. As far as skills go, he don't really have any and looks really inexperienced for a former world champion.
He is undefeated, a former world champion so he does deserve respect but the reality is he is pretty awful & painfully limited.

Totally agree. That's just who he is. Lamont's better than the other two.

[Hougigo]

Quillin and Broner

[alexguiness]

Both Peterson and Broner have some real talent and variety in their punching.

Quillin has nothing IMO, some power that's it.

His balance / footwork is terrible, he is one dimensional and has a very readable style.

In terms of natural talent and boxing ability, Andy Lee outclassed Quillin - but he lacked application in the first half of the fight.

Once Andy Lee landed scored a knockdown and hurt him, Quillin looked terrible.

[-PBP-]

Quillin and Broner have the same problem. They simply aren't intelligent enough to make the adjustments they need to. They need their opponents to do a certain thing or they become confused and very beatable. Their skills are limited and if they can't hurt you, they're in trouble.

Peterson, I understand. He's proven over and over again to be too susceptible early to power, and he needs to be cautious. Problem is he doesn't always pick the right time to throw caution aside and begin doing what he does best. Last night was a great example of that. It is his trainer's job to let him know when it's time to flip that switch. If Hunter can't learn to pick those moments to let Peterson loose, he will cost Peterson fights like he did against Garcia.

I agree lack of ring intelligence is a big part of it. Broner is a little smarter than Quillin. After Maidana got out to an early lead he began walking him down and took a few of those middle rounds.

But Quillin can't adjust to save his life. He has an excellent right hand but can't create his own offense. He needs to capitalize on mistakes his opponent makes.

Peterson's lack of aggressiveness early cost him a fight he should've won last night. He should of kept the fight inside because he can throw punches at short ranges while Garcia can't.

[HeThaTruth]

People don't understand how close Broner is to becoming a serious p4p force. If he stops sticking his hands out like Foreman and stops leaning back for defense he will be extremely hard to beat by anyone who isn't strictly a mover with a long jab. Algieri would probably be the toughest stylistic matchup at 140-147. Crawford and Garcia would be 50-50