What now for Lee and Quillin?

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  • Hougigo
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    #11
    Quillin either moves up or fights Danny Jacobs at 163.... I'll go with the latter

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    • Derranged
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      #12
      Quillin fights for a title in the 162.6 division.

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      • Barcham
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        #13
        Originally posted by soul_survivor
        I hope Lee gets that unification with Cotto, massive payday and can retire. I don't want to see him mauled by GGG.
        He will never fight a unification with Cotto. Cotto won't have the title much longer after he gets his voluntary done. He either fights GGG and gets destroyed or vacates. No possibility of his fighting Lee in a unification.

        Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
        I don't know what happens but damn do these two guys suck fat ****s. What a crap fight. Lee is like a white Adonis Stevenson sitting there waiting to land that one shot all night and Quillen likes to engage less then anyone I've ever seen. For two guys standing in front of each other all night you'd expect a little more action.
        And LOL at Marv Albert saying they both landed 58 power punches through 10 rounds and that it was a Huge amount lol..yeah 5 power punches a round is unheard of Marvin..
        I hate to correct you, but that would be 48 power punches landed - COMBINED! Not by each fighter. Which is around three rounds of GGG average output which is 15.9 power punches landed per round.

        And Marv was so impressed with those numbers, too. He'd be totally speechless at a Golovkin fight.

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        • daggum
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          #14
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          What not for these two guys? Both are arguably top 5 MWs but the gap between them and GGG/Cotto just looks vast.

          I know Lee is likely to defend his WBO title against BJS and Quillin...well apart from Haymon, does he have any bargaining chips left? He will have to wait for a rematch with Lee/BJS if it ever happens. Not to mention that a fight with GGG/Cotto looks more unlikely than ever before.

          Lee probably ends up in the better position, there's that BJS fight and win or lose a money domestic clash with Macklin and probably fights with guys like Eubank Jr or Murray to wind down his career.

          What do you guys think?
          cotto? cotto hasn't had a real fight at 160 yet. sergio "i need major knee surgery" martinez certainly doesn't count. we found out that fight was a farce yet people still pretend it was an amazing win. very puzzling.

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          • Sugar Adam Ali
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            #15
            I think they should do a rematch immediately.. No offense to Saunders but I don't think he has done enough to be an enforced mandatory imo... Beating jr Eubanks shouldn't make you the mandatory challenger..

            I venture to say lee will defend vs Saunders, and quillen will be left out in the cold, and will probably fight once in the next 15 months

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            • soul_survivor
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              #16
              Originally posted by Derranged
              Quillin fights for a title in the 162.6 division.
              LOOL Yes, that prestigious 162.6 title

              Originally posted by Barcham
              He will never fight a unification with Cotto. Cotto won't have the title much longer after he gets his voluntary done. He either fights GGG and gets destroyed or vacates. No possibility of his fighting Lee in a unification.
              Why no unification with Cotto? There's a great chance if the Canelo fight is not made after the mandatory...and who is to say the Canelo fight won't be a MW contest? I think Cotto wins both those and will have to defend his title again...if Lee retains and if Cotto runs from GGG again then there is no way that fight doesn't happen.

              Originally posted by daggum
              cotto? cotto hasn't had a real fight at 160 yet. sergio "i need major knee surgery" martinez certainly doesn't count. we found out that fight was a farce yet people still pretend it was an amazing win. very puzzling.
              I'm a big Martinez fan, also a pretty big Cotto fan and I didn't enjoy that win but say what you like, he has THE belt in the division and that makes him a top 2 MW.

              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              I think they should do a rematch immediately.. No offense to Saunders but I don't think he has done enough to be an enforced mandatory imo... Beating jr Eubanks shouldn't make you the mandatory challenger..

              I venture to say lee will defend vs Saunders, and quillen will be left out in the cold, and will probably fight once in the next 15 months
              BJS has done what any other mandatory has done in history, fight through the dregs of the division and get himself shot. He deserves as much as any mandatory in recent boxing history. Cost hey all work their way up like this.

              Now, in terms of the rematch, I really wouldn't want to see that mess again and I'd prefer Quillin tried fighting a few mid level opposition and worked on his stamina.

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              • Barcham
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                #17
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                LOOL Yes, that prestigious 162.6 title



                Why no unification with Cotto? There's a great chance if the Canelo fight is not made after the mandatory...and who is to say the Canelo fight won't be a MW contest? I think Cotto wins both those and will have to defend his title again...if Lee retains and if Cotto runs from GGG again then there is no way that fight doesn't happen.



                I'm a big Martinez fan, also a pretty big Cotto fan and I didn't enjoy that win but say what you like, he has THE belt in the division and that makes him a top 2 MW.



                BJS has done what any other mandatory has done in history, fight through the dregs of the division and get himself shot. He deserves as much as any mandatory in recent boxing history. Cost hey all work their way up like this.

                Now, in terms of the rematch, I really wouldn't want to see that mess again and I'd prefer Quillin tried fighting a few mid level opposition and worked on his stamina.
                No unification with Cotto because Cotto is fighting his VOLUNTARY and immediately after that he has his mandatory against Golovkin. As Cotto will either vacate, be stripped for fighting someone else or get destroyed by GGG, he will not have any title to unify in a fight with Lee.

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                • VatoMulatto
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                  #18
                  A REMATCH is the only right way to go. These two have unfinished business.

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                  • Dr Rumack
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                    #19
                    All I know is that Quillin is looking at the big picture.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor
                      LOOL Yes, that prestigious 162.6 title



                      Why no unification with Cotto? There's a great chance if the Canelo fight is not made after the mandatory...and who is to say the Canelo fight won't be a MW contest? I think Cotto wins both those and will have to defend his title again...if Lee retains and if Cotto runs from GGG again then there is no way that fight doesn't happen.



                      I'm a big Martinez fan, also a pretty big Cotto fan and I didn't enjoy that win but say what you like, he has THE belt in the division and that makes him a top 2 MW.



                      BJS has done what any other mandatory has done in history, fight through the dregs of the division and get himself shot. He deserves as much as any mandatory in recent boxing history. Cost hey all work their way up like this.

                      Now, in terms of the rematch, I really wouldn't want to see that mess again and I'd prefer Quillin tried fighting a few mid level opposition and worked on his stamina.
                      Who has Saunders beaten that was an actual top guy at middleweight.. There is no way he has legitamately become #1 contender. Just because boxing is filled with crap mandatories doesn't mean it's right, and we should continue doing it..

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