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pacquiao wont throw as much as maidana, but he's alot smarter with his boxing
he makes it high speed chess and most can't keep up
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Originally posted by Brassangel View PostFirst of all, no fighter is "without troubles," because no fighter is perfect.
Second, Floyd has fought some top tier guys who are far younger than him.
Third, Manny is nowhere CLOSE to where he was in his prime, so where is your argument giving him a better chance?
I believe Manny can win, but his chances are much slimmer than they were 6 years ago.
Floyd stands in a way that creates an awkward amount of space between two fighters, and thus slows down volume punching. If and when a fighter does get a chance to line up shots, they catch shoulders, elbows and air. (As a side note: Floyd's elbow is one of the dirtiest tactics in history, as he purposefully aims it directly at an opponent's eyebrow.) He can then respond with 1 or 2 clean, pot-shot style counter punches that pack more power than people give him credit for.
He is surprisingly effective in the corner, and will attempt to time uppercuts against Manny coming in; not to mention the straight right to the midsection from a distance. It will slow Manny's charges considerably.
This process, over several rounds, is discouraging and embarrassing. His opponents are then content to just avoid getting hit and accept their paycheck.
Pacquiao has a good chance, if he doesn't just recklessly bounce in and out like he does against most opponents. Manny can try to get off first, back out when Floyd tries to counter, but stay close enough to fire again immediately after. He will effectively win 2 out of 3 exchanges this way, in bursts, and really impress the judges. If he can mark Floyd up (as Cotto did), but early in the fight, he may get ahead on the cards and force Floyd to fight with a sense of urgency. An aggressive Mayweather, at age 38, may make a few mistakes.
Manny won't knock him out. In 2009 he absolutely could have. Right now, it won't happen. Floyd has a fantastic chin, an even better recovery rate, and Pacquiao doesn't have the same pop he did a few years ago.
Floyd won't knock Manny out. Manny will be smart about his movement so as to avoid walking into a perfect punch. Floyd also doesn't put enough pressure on a guy, or accumulate the damage quickly enough to KO him through attrition.
Floyd wins a relatively boring decision, 116-112.
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Originally posted by johnm is... View PostYeah, because those are fair comparisons to Mayweather.
He thinks uppercutting Pac in the stomach is the way to go because Pac is so small that if you aim for the stomach, you'll hit him on the chin? Sounds like they think they are fighting an elf or something.
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Originally posted by Biolink View PostEven in that very fight Zab started off looking faster and sharper until Mayweather pounded his body and outskilled him the rest of the way.
The Zab fight is a good fight to watch and realize that Manny could do what Zab did and so much more. The more is what will make the difference.
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5 years ago Manny was all wrong for Floyd as an aggressive/effective pressure fighter. Now with age and several hard battles (esp. the Marquez KO), Manny has become a boxer puncher who sometimes applies pressure effectively.
Will be a boring fight at Floyd's discretion.
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