baldomir deserves respect

[Divine Hammer]

Margarito was good but it didn't happen get over it


Margarito held the wbo belt and when both were on top rank Mayweather was going after odlh....a great fighter and someone in the hall of fame


That was in 06-07

When Floyd left top rank and got odlh and hatton....both of them were better fighters and actually were champions and won ABC belts


Margo hadn't done **** but beat cintron and six heads lewis by 07....didn't he lose to Paul Williams that year



Odlh and hatton> Paul Williams and Margo



When Money came back in 09 he beat jmm, Ortiz, Cotto, maidana 2x, canelo, and Guerrero


Now he'll be fighting Manny.... That's 3(Cotto, PAC, and Jmm) hall of famers since 09
We don't know what canelo will do on to do


Margarito was good but he wouldn't have enhanced money's resume or made him as much money as hatton or odlh




Hating someone don't mean you can rewrite the truth

floyd didn't want anything to do with margarito when margarito was prime, champion, and knocking guys out left and right. prime margarito would have squashed hatton at welterweight. hatton struggled against collazo at welterweight.

that's why floyd retired because there were too many strong hard hitting prime guys like paul williams, margarito, cotto, etc. in the division.

no doubt in my mind a prime paul williams or margarito would have squashed floyd. paul williams a six feet tall, southpaw crazy volume puncher with good power would have given floyd a TON of problems and easily beat him.

[therealpugilist]

floyd didn't want anything to do with margarito when margarito was prime, champion, and knocking guys out left and right. prime margarito would have squashed hatton at welterweight. hatton struggled against collazo at welterweight.

that's why floyd retired because there were too many strong hard hitting prime guys like paul williams, margarito, cotto, etc. in the division.

no doubt in my mind a prime paul williams or margarito would have squashed floyd. paul williams a six feet tall, southpaw crazy volume puncher with good power would have given floyd a TON of problems and easily beat him.

So Floyd was scared of Margo but not scared of a hall of famer @ 154 in odlh


That odlh would've kicked Margo's basic ass

Paul Williams lost to quintana he was no monster

Mayweather went on to beat better fighters than Margo and p williams so that stale he was scared b.s. is senseless and carry's no weight



He was scared of PAC too right...wonder whats gonna be the excuses may 3


He was scared of canelo, he was ducking Mosley

Dude been making y'all eat crow since he came back...can't wait til may 2nd to see what excuses y'all cook up

[mastertech1985]

they should change the forum to Non Stop Bytching

every pro fighter deserves respect


especially a world champion

[daggum]

So Floyd was scared of Margo but not scared of a hall of famer @ 154 in odlh


That odlh would've kicked Margo's basic ass

Paul Williams lost to quintana he was no monster

Mayweather went on to beat better fighters than Margo and p williams so that stale he was scared b.s. is senseless and carry's no weight



He was scared of PAC too right...wonder whats gonna be the excuses may 3


He was scared of canelo, he was ducking Mosley

Dude been making y'all eat crow since he came back...can't wait til may 2nd to see what excuses y'all cook up

dlh ducked marg a year later

judah lost to journeyman baldomir but floyd still fought him right after a loss

that's debatable but he did fight mitchell, judah, and hatton instead of them and they are not better than them. he also retired to avoid tough fights which looks very bad.

if it takes 5 years to get in a ring with an opponent, then no matter what the outcome of the fight they had reservations

[mastertech1985]

dlh ducked marg a year later

judah lost to journeyman baldomir but floyd still fought him right after a loss

that's debatable but he did fight mitchell, judah, and hatton instead of them and they are not better than them. he also retired to avoid tough fights which looks very bad.

if it takes 5 years to get in a ring with an opponent, then no matter what the outcome of the fight they had reservations

bro you crying about Mayweather not fighting Margarito, when Margarito wouldnt even be one of his biggest wins


He has beaten more accomplished and better than Margarito

Hatton, Jose Luis Castillo, Diego Corrales, Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Genaro Hernandez, may all be in the hall of fame by the end of this decade


he will be fighting Manny Pacquaio next month....do you really think Margarito who was just decent, is/was a bigger threat to Mayweather than ODLH who weighed 165 fight night, picked the ring, gloves and weight class

Manny Pacquaio is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Margarito ever was


Mayweather damn near white washed Mosley...the guy who darn near decapitated Margarito

Canelo has a lot left in his tank, we don't know what he will go on to do


Margarito was a good fighter but Margarito was no legacy changing opponent when the fight was proposed


plus this thread is about Baldomir....he gets my respect just like all of the pro fighters

[mastertech1985]

dlh ducked marg a year later

judah lost to journeyman baldomir but floyd still fought him right after a loss

that's debatable but he did fight mitchell, judah, and hatton instead of them and they are not better than them. he also retired to avoid tough fights which looks very bad.

if it takes 5 years to get in a ring with an opponent, then no matter what the outcome of the fight they had reservations

Margarito was never on his radar



Its not ducking when you are fighting better opposition...Margarito fought Mayweather and Pacquaio at the end of his career.....Margarito was never on that level so don't sit there and make it seem he was when he was a decent fighter who just won trinkets....these 3 guys Manny, Pac, and ODLH are/were great fighters and they wanted to fight each other and make big dough....margarita brought nothing to the table legacy wise or money wise

Margo fought at 147 and everytime he moved up he lost....Daniel Santos, 150 with Pacquaio, 154 with Cotto


Margarito was never the monster Arum and Mayweather detractors tried to make him be

[daggum]

bro you crying about Mayweather not fighting Margarito, when Margarito wouldnt even be one of his biggest wins


He has beaten more accomplished and better than Margarito

Hatton, Jose Luis Castillo, Diego Corrales, Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Genaro Hernandez, may all be in the hall of fame by the end of this decade


he will be fighting Manny Pacquaio next month....do you really think Margarito who was just decent, is/was a bigger threat to Mayweather than ODLH who weighed 165 fight night, picked the ring, gloves and weight class

Manny Pacquaio is a bigger threat to Mayweather than Margarito ever was


Mayweather damn near white washed Mosley...the guy who darn near decapitated Margarito

Canelo has a lot left in his tank, we don't know what he will go on to do


Margarito was a good fighter but Margarito was no legacy changing opponent when the fight was proposed


plus this thread is about Baldomir....he gets my respect just like all of the pro fighters

why are you creating a straw man? it wasn't fight margarito or fight corrales/castillo/hoya. it was fight margarito or fight sharmba mitchell and zab judah coming off a loss and we know what he picked.

[daggum]

Margarito was never on his radar



Its not ducking when you are fighting better opposition...Margarito fought Mayweather and Pacquaio at the end of his career.....Margarito was never on that level so don't sit there and make it seem he was when he was a decent fighter who just won trinkets....these 3 guys Manny, Pac, and ODLH are/were great fighters and they wanted to fight each other and make big dough....margarita brought nothing to the table legacy wise or money wise

Margo fought at 147 and everytime he moved up he lost....Daniel Santos, 150 with Pacquaio, 154 with Cotto


Margarito was never the monster Arum and Mayweather detractors tried to make him be

but he fought sharmba mitchell and zab judah coming off a loss even though marg had been ranked #1 for 3 years. I think you lost this one mr. straw man. return to fighthype for more talking points.

[mastertech1985]

why are you creating a straw man? it wasn't fight margarito or fight corrales/castillo/hoya. it was fight margarito or fight sharmba mitchell and zab judah coming off a loss and we know what he picked.

Baldomir was the champion and Judah was the former champion and number one contender.....their contract was signed before Judah even lost to Baldo


Mayweather was fighting Judah anyway....its Judah's fault he lost

So mayweather went after the champion....who was the lineal champion who had the more prestigious belt as well and made more money than fighting Margarito for a WBO trinket and Margo lost to Paul Williams killed his momentum.



now in 2007....Mayweather was free


Mayweather left Top Rank.....he was chasing DLH since his days at 130....would you fight Margarito for pennys and a trinket.....or fight the cash cow of your era and enhance your legacy


after that he faced Hatton who he wanted to fight since 2004 in another blockbuster....both were prime and undefeated and multi-weight champions/titlists.......their is no way you can argue that fighting Margarito made more sense than fighting them at that time

In 2006-2007 Margarito had no name, no following and lost to Paul Williams, wasn't the lineal champion, didn't bring big doe to the table or anything....he was a good fighter but that bull Arum claiming Margo was the most feared was crap then and crap now


OSCAR at 154 was a more dangerous fight than Margo at 147 in 2007....made more money and enhanced his legacy Oscar>Margo

[mastertech1985]

but he fought sharmba mitchell and zab judah coming off a loss even though marg had been ranked #1 for 3 years. I think you lost this one mr. straw man. return to fighthype for more talking points.

you do know the contract with Judah was signed before he fought Baldomir....im sure you wasn't even following boxing then


Margarito was never that good....face it......was no boogeyman

he couldn't even beat Daniel Santos for GODS sake at 147 or 154

Sharmba Mitchell was his first fight at the weight....17 pounds over his original weight...he still went on to beat champions Judah, Baldomir, Mosely, Ortiz, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton, Cotto, Maidana and Canelo at 147 and 154.....


.that more than makes up for not fighting Margarito, who was good but no a future hall of famer like the guys I bolder