Comments Thread For: Floyd Sr: We're Ready, We Can Beat Pacquiao Right Now

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  • SkillspayBills
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    #71
    Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
    Lmaooooooooooo at the scared pac fanatics!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Seriously if Floyd KO's Manny we will never hear the end of this **** lol.

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    • PAC-BOY
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      #72
      Originally posted by hitking
      If Manny can't keep the pressure on, he can't win. The more time Floyd isn't being swamped by activity, the worse its gonna be for Manny. Because we know it won't hurt Floyd's feelings at all to work behind his jab at a safe distance, landing just enough "power punches" to win rounds.
      when has Manny ever ...NEVER been able to keep pressure on? Sounds to me like you think hes gonna win too.

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      • TrueBoxingFan23
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        #73
        Originally posted by ADP02
        Remember that very few saw (expected) Manny beating Oscar and especially the way he beat him. Same goes with Cotto. Not the way Manny won it. So its not out of the realm that Manny can show both you and me something that may seem like an unlikely scenario.

        I'm not saying that this will be a technical fight from round 1 thru 12. I'm just saying that that is how I think this fight will start out. What happens after that will all depend on how each one of them performed in the early rounds. One of them will only change it up if they see that there initial plan is not working out as good as they thought it would.

        As for being athletic and a thinker to beat Floyd. Well, Manny is athletic and he is a thinker. Its just that you need to be much more creative when you are attacking a defensive counter puncher. This doesn't mean that Manny doesn't think. If he didn't, he would not be where he is at. With offense, there is a higher probability of making a mistake. That's all. Just look at Floyd attacking Maidana with his pull counter. While it was not an all out attack by Floyd, he still made a mistake.

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        Great post! But a couple of flaws in the post! Golden Boy was not the same! It was his fault but he was so weight drained and still wouldn't have won because PAC was just to fast for Oscar! As far as PAC being a thinker, I disagree. Marquez proved that. Through out all of the fights PAC made the same mistakes! And I'm not even talking him getting countered. Floyd never makes the same mistakes. Now I do want to see how he deals with PACs speed but that goes for PAC also

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        • ADP02
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          #74
          Originally posted by TrueBoxingFan23
          Great post! But a couple of flaws in the post! Golden Boy was not the same! It was his fault but he was so weight drained and still wouldn't have won because PAC was just to fast for Oscar! As far as PAC being a thinker, I disagree. Marquez proved that. Through out all of the fights PAC made the same mistakes! And I'm not even talking him getting countered. Floyd never makes the same mistakes. Now I do want to see how he deals with PACs speed but that goes for PAC also
          Yes it was no longer the same Oscar but what were people saying before the fight? How about how he beat Cotto?

          Manny is an offensive fighter. So that act of being offensive will always be riddled with mistakes if it turns up bad. In the Marquez 4 fight, it was going Manny's way but he got a bit over confident and over anxious to put Marquez away and it cost him big time. Also, if you compare that KO to a previous round, Manny was thinking and reacted to Marquez counter. Difference is that Manny didn't trip over Marquez's foot. So Manny does think. It's not always apparent but he does. You look at some of his replays against past opponents and it may make you change your mind.

          Floyd doesn't make mistakes you say? Everyone including Floyd makes mistakes. Maidana got Floyd at the end of the round in that 2nd fight which even Floyd admitted to making a mistake that could have been costly.

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          • tredh
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            #75
            Originally posted by ADP02
            Yes it was no longer the same Oscar but what were people saying before the fight? How about how he beat Cotto?

            Manny is an offensive fighter. So that act of being offensive will always be riddled with mistakes if it turns up bad. In the Marquez 4 fight, it was going Manny's way but he got a bit over confident and over anxious to put Marquez away and it cost him big time. Also, if you compare that KO to a previous round, Manny was thinking and reacted to Marquez counter. Difference is that Manny didn't trip over Marquez's foot. So Manny does think. It's not always apparent but he does. You look at some of his replays against past opponents and it may make you change your mind.

            Floyd doesn't make mistakes you say? Everyone including Floyd makes mistakes. Maidana got Floyd at the end of the round in that 2nd fight which even Floyd admitted to making a mistake that could have been costly.
            There is a difference IMO between being offensive being open to counters more and being offensive and making mistakes.

            Every offensive fighter is more open to counters just how it is. But making mistakes is very different. Regardless of being offensive Manny just makes a lot of mistakes that he gets by making because he is that much more athletic than his opponents. Same as Floyd with him making less mistakes.

            IMO Floyd and Manny are basically equals in the athletic department, meaning they each have less room for errors.

            Floyd is Manny superior in ring IQ, adjustments made on the fly and technical skills.

            That to me will be the difference in the fight.

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