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  • #11
    Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View Post
    Age is completely relevant in this instance. Because what I'm saying isn't that experience isn't a problem in winning. I'm saying he is young enough to rebound just like many have in the past from taking a step up and getting beaten if he does as he's likely to do and that if he wants a shot at a big money or big legacy fight-that shot is very likely to go away soon if he wants to get two or three more fights at a high level with other contenders. That shot will be gone.

    So age is very, very relevant when THE big fight in the division is a 39 year old man talking about retirement. From that angle it is 100% relevant and my main point. He earned a shot at being among the best contenders to not have a shot already and he was given that opportunity. To not take it would defeat the point of doing this for a living. Losing does not usually mean an end to your career at his age. Losing bad or otherwise. If he does so much as put up a good fight, his stock has no less than increased and he's got money and some fame for his troubles. He SHOULD take the shot. If we disagree on that, it's fine, but we can't disagree on the point that not taking the shot now risks not ever getting the shot. Because that part is clear.
    Here's a phrase that you may\may not be familiar with:

    "Success happens, when both opportunity and preparedness meet"

    The term "preparedness" is used here in a comprehensive sense.

    We can agree to disagree .................

    My money's on Wlad to make another emphatic statement.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by arraamis View Post
      Way too soon to get in the ring with Wladimir Klitschko .......

      Easy "W" for Wlad
      Unfortunately, this will probably be the case.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by arraamis View Post
        Here's a phrase that you may\may not be familiar with:

        "Success happens, when both opportunity and preparedness meet"

        The term "preparedness" is used here in a comprehensive sense.

        We can agree to disagree .................

        My money's on Wlad to make another emphatic statement.
        Again, my point is not about his chances at success in this fight. It has to do with taking an opportunity and the opportunity not waiting for you to be ready in the first place and that he has a good shot at doing himself no harm in the likely event that he loses. So if you are ignoring that this is my point, which I can't tell if you're doing, then there's no more discussion to be had anyway. So definitely we will agree to disagree if we're not even having the same discussion, which I feel is the case.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View Post
          Age is completely relevant in this instance. Because what I'm saying isn't that experience isn't a problem in winning. I'm saying he is young enough to rebound just like many have in the past from taking a step up and getting beaten if he does as he's likely to do and that if he wants a shot at a big money or big legacy fight-that shot is very likely to go away soon if he wants to get two or three more fights at a high level with other contenders. That shot will be gone.

          So age is very, very relevant when THE big fight in the division is a 39 year old man talking about retirement. From that angle it is 100% relevant and my main point. He earned a shot at being among the best contenders to not have a shot already and he was given that opportunity. To not take it would defeat the point of doing this for a living. Losing does not usually mean an end to your career at his age. Losing bad or otherwise. If he does so much as put up a good fight, his stock has no less than increased and he's got money and some fame for his troubles. He SHOULD take the shot. If we disagree on that, it's fine, but we can't disagree on the point that not taking the shot now risks not ever getting the shot. Because that part is clear.
          I admire Jenning's attitude, and that of his team, in taking this challenge on. But he was mandatory for Wilder's WBC title and if I'd been handling him that's the one I would have focused on. If he'd beaten Wilder, which I think he is capable of doing, he could then have gone up against Wlad in a unification fight which would have earned him a lot more money than he'll be getting for this.

          I guess he is young enough to come back from a defeat and that's probably what he's going to have to do. I just don't think he's ready for Wlad yet.

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          • #15
            It looks like a hardcore no frills gym he's working out in while Wlad has his elaborate training camp with all the best trainers, equipment, nutritionists, sparring partners etc. This is almost like a Rocky story with Jennings playing the protagonist and Wlad playing the villain.

            I'm hoping Bryant Jennings makes a fight out of it and is not just content with going the full 12 with the champ. I could see a scenario where Jennings gets frustrated and stymied by Wlad's superior defense and clinching tactics and just get outpointed or KO'd late in the fight.
            Last edited by BostonGuy; 04-09-2015, 09:25 PM.

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            • #16
              If this goes past 6 rounds, Wlad is definitely on the decline.

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              • #17
                Wlad is going to keep him at the end of his jab and destroy him with left hooks and straight rights. I like Jennings, Im gonna feel bad for the pain he will have to endure. I hope he bounces back.

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                • #18
                  I think Jennings has quite a good chance. Jennings dominated Siarhei Liakhovich in his 13th professional fight. Liakhovich holds a win over Lamon Brewster for the WBO Heavyweight Title. And Brewster holds a TKO win over Wlad. Jennings chances aren't great, but with an ageing Wlad, he might just shock the world.

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                  • #19
                    Great to see the challenger in such shape as well as the likes of Wilder,Pulev, Glazkov, Cunningham and it is a shame guys like Solis, Fury and Chisora come out looking like pot bellied pigs, who have just vacated the buffet pre fight.

                    Hopefully Jennings can present a challenge but I'm rooting for the champ, I'll take a one sided beat down, an early night, which ever result transcends the most US fans into demanding and bringing along the eventuality of facing Wilder and his WBC belt sooner rather than later.

                    Wlad signed his HBO deal and is back on US soil for one purpose, to get himself back in the eye of the viewer who can ultimately bring him the WBC belt. I'm expecting another statement win like the Pulev mauling, Jennings is in for a rough ride, in what will likely prove a short night.

                    The significance of this fight in the grand scheme of things is HUGE.

                    Originally posted by Public_Enemy View Post
                    I understand where you're coming from but think about the heavyweight division at the moment. What fighters have tons of experience? If we look at the top 10, guys like Wilder and Perez aren't that experienced. Fury has a good amount of experience. Wlad already fought Povetkin and Pulev. There really aren't too many guys that have loads of experience imo. There's no reason for Jennings to wait. He may miss his opportunity.
                    Wlad will be trashed whoever he fights, the usual tards are always underplaying his next potential opponent before he has even hammered them.

                    You have guys bemoaning he won't fight Wilder and Fury before retiring, which I'm personally certain he will, and will KO both. The same guys will be at it again with Joshua and so on..... Whoever is coming up next is always avoided by Wlad, it happened with Haye not so log since, apparently Wlad is getting ready to retire because Haye is making a comeback is the latest lol.

                    Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                    I admire Jenning's attitude, and that of his team, in taking this challenge on. But he was mandatory for Wilder's WBC title and if I'd been handling him that's the one I would have focused on. If he'd beaten Wilder, which I think he is capable of doing, he could then have gone up against Wlad in a unification fight which would have earned him a lot more money than he'll be getting for this.

                    I guess he is young enough to come back from a defeat and that's probably what he's going to have to do. I just don't think he's ready for Wlad yet.
                    Wilder is likely a less paying gig, hence why Jennings has gone for the champ. Plus he clearly had no idea how long team Wilder were gonna keep him sat out for with this supposed injury. Jennings hasn't fought since July. Team Fury have already issued they will fight whomever is the highest paying fight next as opposed to a definitive mandated title challenge against Wlad, it really is not too difficult to understand, apply the same logic to this circumstance.

                    Originally posted by dinkme View Post
                    I think Jennings has quite a good chance. Jennings dominated Siarhei Liakhovich in his 13th professional fight. Liakhovich holds a win over Lamon Brewster for the WBO Heavyweight Title. And Brewster holds a TKO win over Wlad. Jennings chances aren't great, but with an ageing Wlad, he might just shock the world.
                    Liakhovich was completely shot in that fight. It wasnt at all a great fight to watch, I liked the idea of the match up at the time, hell Bryant would have benefited from it, but at that stage Liakhovich represented no danger whatsoever. For Wilder to fight that guy nearly two years later was laughable.

                    Robert Helenius put the final nail in the white wolf's coffin a year prior to Jennings schooling him for every minute of every round. Jennings has shown over his career a somewhat lack of power, he demonstrated against Liakhovich this.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View Post
                      Again, my point is not about his chances at success in this fight. It has to do with taking an opportunity and the opportunity not waiting for you to be ready in the first place and that he has a good shot at doing himself no harm in the likely event that he loses. So if you are ignoring that this is my point, which I can't tell if you're doing, then there's no more discussion to be had anyway. So definitely we will agree to disagree if we're not even having the same discussion, which I feel is the case.
                      The experience issue lies in the problem with prospects avoiding the testing fights out there that would in fact give them the experience needed for these title tilts, you have guys like Fury avoiding orders from the WBC and IBF to face guys like Pulev and in turn rematching guys on the level of Chisora years after schooling them in title eliminatiors. Glazkov has recently defeated Cunningham, who has lost every time he has stepped up and competed in countless title eliminatiors, failing at each attempt. Jennings is no different, he defeated Perez upon the win he became mandatory, the same Perez who struggled over Takam, the same Takam who was destroyed by Povetkin. his debatable Perez win does not give him the experience but it qualifies him for a title fight and a million dollar cheque, that is the issue here.

                      If guys like Gazkov, Jennings and Fury are content whilst the likes of Pulev and Povetkin will fight all comers, then that is their prerogative. Come the end game the added experience did not serve them all that well anyway, who out there can in fact serve up as good preparation for facing an ATG like Wladimir Klitschko ? There simply is not anyone near his level let alone on his level.

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