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  • #81
    Originally posted by -Weltschmerz- View Post
    Should he beat Mayweather in style, it would definitely be icing on the cake. Unfortunately, I foresee a decision win for Mayweather. The problem is the size and reach advantage Mayweather has over Manny. Manny needs to tag him. Hopefully Roach has a great master plan, in order for Manny to get to him. Then again, Maidana got to him a couple times, Mayweather looks to have slowed down. If Maidana could get to him, why shouldn't the faster and much more refined Manny get to him? Yes!!!
    I agree that Floyd has slowed but so has Manny. Maidana is a guy who gets to everybody who fights him unless you tie him up EVERY time he gets close. he has a very dirty, awkward, aggressive style.

    I see Floyd winning too but Manny has a chance with his speed and awkward angles ala Roy Jones vs James Toney.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
      Sharmba, Gatti, Ortiz Guerrero... You're just a joke poster
      -Gatti was Ring/WBC champion at 140, had run through five straight wins over solid competition before Floyd, and is already inducted into the IBHOF.

      -Sharmba Mitchell, outside of the two Kostya Tzyu beatings, turned in a respectable pro career.

      -Ortiz had gone 5-0-1 in the six fights since quitting in the Maidana fight, was still seen as a future star in the sport, and he had Floyd's WBC 147 title

      -Guerrero was the mandatory challenger, had gone 7 years unbeaten, and has proven himself to be a solid fighter at the weight.

      If that's your definition of slouch, so be it. enjoy your life

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
        Hernandez and Coralles wouldn't even be in the top 15 individual wins of Manny Pacquiao's career but they're Floyd's best and 2nd best wins lol
        Genaro Hernandez (38-2): two-time world champion at 130; 14 successful title defenses.

        Diego Corralles (40-5): two-division, multi-time world champion who walked into the fight with Mayweather 33-0, 27 KOs, and the #1 rated fighter at the weight (#5 P4P)

        I'd honestly like to hear about these 15 Pacquiao opponents that would be better than Hernandez and Coralles. just for ****s and giggles.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Double_L View Post
          Lol @ you starting your post with that, then expecting anyone to take you seriously, besides haters and... you know. Your preceding post reeked of haterade but then you went ahead and one-upped yourself.

          simply trying to be consistent; if people are bent on making a stink about the judges decisions in the Bradley fights, then those same folks should be ready to make a stink about the Marquez fights too.

          You can't cry about the decision in the first Bradley fight and then go mum when the 2nd and 3rd Marquez fights are brought up. You look foolish trying to have it both ways.

          if that's "haterade", so be it.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by -Weltschmerz- View Post
            Morales, Barrera, Marquez, all of them in their prime. De La Hoya and Mosley.
            Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Bradley.

            A win over Mayweather would make Manny's career complete.
            ^^^^^^ lol

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
              ^^^^^^ lol
              What lol? As if Mayweather's resume looks any better/comparatively different?

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                ^^^^^^ lol
                Seriously, are you trolling or just a idiot. You discredit Pacs resume and say why this win isn't that great or this fighter was this at the time you could find that in Floyds resume to, right?

                Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                Genaro Hernandez (38-2): two-time world champion at 130; 14 successful title defenses.

                Diego Corralles (40-5): two-division, multi-time world champion who walked into the fight with Mayweather 33-0, 27 KOs, and the #1 rated fighter at the weight (#5 P4P)

                I'd honestly like to hear about these 15 Pacquiao opponents that would be better than Hernandez and Coralles. just for ****s and giggles.
                All you did was discredit Pacs resume and then name fighters and why they were good wins for Floyd.

                Genaro Hernandez- Past prime, was having a tough time making the weight and felt drained leading up to the fight but he was professional about it.

                Castillo- Alot of people think he lost the first fight.

                Gatti- Noting more then a club fighter no matter how you try to spin him. Floyd only fought him for the $$$ and to get on ppv, he even said he is a c class fighter and that everyone knows Kostya Tszyu is the real champ.

                Diego Corrales- Was having legal troubles and was going to jail.

                Hatton- fights him at 147

                Canelo -CW

                Marquez- brings him up 2 weight classes, "but he called Floyd out", cool, 144 it is, but he couldn't even make that.

                Even Pacs Lineal titles are better.
                MAB- p4p at the time and beat Naz for the lineal
                Chatchai Sasakul- who beat Yuri Arbachakov who was in the p4p rankings at the time
                Marquez
                Hatton

                Floyd Lineal titles
                Hernandez- who beat a old zoom zoom for it.
                Castillo- the only good name he has here
                Baldomir- lol ya....
                Canelo- Cw

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  simply trying to be consistent; if people are bent on making a stink about the judges decisions in the Bradley fights, then those same folks should be ready to make a stink about the Marquez fights too.

                  You can't cry about the decision in the first Bradley fight and then go mum when the 2nd and 3rd Marquez fights are brought up. You look foolish trying to have it both ways.

                  if that's "haterade", so be it.
                  Except for the fact that 90% of fans and experts thought that the Bradley fight was a straight up robbery, and every Pac-Marquez fight was competitive. The comparison is just bad. Saying Pac "lost four fights to Marquez" is laughable. If you want to do a reasonable comparison, do Pac-Bradley 1 vs. Mayweather-Castillo 1.

                  The fact that you're crapping on Pac's resume while praising Mayweather's is just nonsensical. If you're "trying to be consistent," you're doing a terrible job at it. Your bias is could not be more obvious.

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                  • #89
                    Lol at haters in NSB, feeling like experts, lots of experts here. i remember when people are talking here that if he beats dela hoya he goes top 10, when golden boy retired they say if he beats cotto he is sure top 10. After he demolished cotto boom! Now pac should defeAt sergio martinez but it did not happen. Then comes this floyd ducking challenge, he needs to fight floyd to crack top 10 lols.

                    Truth is you ****ing wannabes dksab! Truth hurts, your ****ing fanboys who degrades a boxer and not rate him as what he is entitled to. But its okay when all of you ****loads of posers boxing fanboys are dead Pac will be remembered as the new generation all time great, beating the **** out of floyd would just be the icing on the cake.

                    You ****ing ******s always remember this: he fought morales, barera and marquez multiple times and that only considers him to be an all time great. They are the four kings of the new generations.

                    And you hold your dildos fanboys, no one has elevated the sports of boxing since Ali and elevated it Globally other than PAC! Haters gonna hate and that is true, downplaying his achievements would be stupidity at its best!

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by 5.4ever View Post
                      I'm no nuthugger but I admit, manny is my fav boxer since Roy jones.

                      That being said, a clear dominating win over floyd would put him in the top 25, at best...

                      His career has been marvelous and he's done so much for the sport of boxing, but no way does that make him top 10, much less top 3. People who say that don't know boxing or boxers in history too well...

                      If floyd beats manny very clearly, and goes on to fight two of the bigger names in boxing and beats them also and retires a perfect 50, that would put him In the top 25 for sure...


                      I dislike floyd but can still salvage some of his legacy with what he does in the next three fights...
                      I think what a lot of western fans don't understand is HOW MUCH of an impact Pacquiao has brought to Asia when it comes to boxing...

                      Ali is that last boxer who has had that much of a generational impact. It may not be obvious here stateside but go to Asia etc...... and Pacquiao is an icon. Let alone his boxing resume.

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