Is Cotto too small for 160 or not?

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  • Deevel916
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    #11
    Originally posted by PeasantCrusha
    Cotto is CLEARLY too small for MW.


    When someone says it's a "good fight," they are merely saying it is a LEGIT MW for Cotto and a REAL test for Cotto at MW.


    By acknowledging that Geale is a real MW and a real test, does NOT imply someone actually believes that Cotto is a bonafide middleweight.


    Not that complicated.
    So what you're saying is, a fight with Geale at 160 is good but a fight with GGG is not? I ask because that's what I've been reading lately from the Cotto diehards when it comes to a fight with GGG. "Oh I don't blame Cotto for not fighting GGG. He's too small anyway. He'll fight Canelo after his next fight and give up the belt".

    I'm just looking for some consistency here. Either he's a MW or not. Not that he's a MW for certain challenges but not a MW for others.

    Its not that complicated.

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    • PeasantCrusha
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      #12
      Originally posted by Deevel916
      So what you're saying is, a fight with Geale at 160 is good but a fight with GGG is not? I ask because that's what I've been reading lately from the Cotto diehards when it comes to a fight with GGG. "Oh I don't blame Cotto for not fighting GGG. He's too small anyway. He'll fight Canelo after his next fight and give up the belt".

      I'm just looking for some consistency here. Either he's a MW or not. Not that he's a MW for certain challenges but not a MW for others.

      Its not that complicated.
      It might be. You seem confused.


      What part of Cotto testing the MW waters with a Geale as opposed to facing a GGG straight out of the gate do you struggle with?


      If you have watched this sport for more than a week, you would know that fighters often TEST a new weight out BEFORE jumping to the divisions "killa."

      Cotto is NOT a MW, but he we will know better against a guy like Geale, IF Cotto is ready for a GGG at a new weight.

      All this macho shyt is funny when nobody was giving Sergio shyt for not fighting GGG. Remember, Cotto is 5'7 and an ex 140lb fighter. Perspective....

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      • STREET CLEANER
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        #13
        Originally posted by borikua
        Right. He did it to be the first Rican to win titles @ 4 weights. He should move to 154, but he knows that there are some "good" fights he can make at 160 without worrying about making weight in camp.


        He should fight Canelo at 154 imo. Lara would beat him at 154 and there is pretty much no one else at 154 that could bring some good $$.
        I agree 100%

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          #14
          Are we that eager to discredit a guy like Cotto by blaming him for not being born a bigger man e.g. 5'10 180lbs? Cotto is a not even a real 154lb fighter if you want to be sincere about it. So all this talk about "WHY is Cotto fighting Geale" is just more moving of the goal post.


          "Cotto better fight a REAL MW and NOT Bradley..."


          then becomes


          "Awe man, WHY is Cotto fighting a REAL MW named Geale doe??"



          The goal post is on wheels for sure...

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            #15
            Originally posted by Deevel916
            You fanboys have me confused. When it comes to a fight with GGG, all I hear is, "well Cotto is just using the MW title as leverage and plans to dump it before being forced into a fight with GGG because in reality he's not a true MW".

            Now that there's rumor circulating about Cotto vs Geale, the fanboys are now talking about how this is a good fight.

            So which is it? Is Cotto a MW only when it comes to facing certain MW fighters not named GGG, or is he too small for the division?
            Quote me on saying that. I'll wait while you look foolish.

            oh and about geale... go to the page. Even non cotto fans are saying its a better fight than heiland or K9.

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            • Deevel916
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              #16
              Originally posted by PeasantCrusha
              It might be. You seem confused.


              What part of Cotto testing the MW waters with a Geale as opposed to facing a GGG straight out of the gate do you struggle with?


              If you have watched this sport for more than a week, you would know that fighters often TEST a new weight out BEFORE jumping to the divisions "killa."

              Cotto is NOT a MW, but he we will know better against a guy like Geale, IF Cotto is ready for a GGG at a new weight.

              All this macho shyt is funny when nobody was giving Sergio shyt for not fighting GGG. Remember, Cotto is 5'7 and an ex 140lb fighter. Perspective....
              Testing the waters? What division did Cotto face Sergio Martinez at?

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                #17
                No. He's just two small for GGG. And I mean that. He can be successful there but it's a catch 22 because he's too small for the best MW in that division. And it's not just size, just overall, GGG is too much for the MW division. It's not competitive for him. Still think Cotto's one of the best opponents that GGG can fight, within reason.

                GGG should fight:

                Canelo
                Cotto
                Ward

                Not necessarily in that order.

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                • Deevel916
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bigjavi973
                  Quote me on saying that. I'll wait while you look foolish.

                  oh and about geale... go to the page. Even non cotto fans are saying its a better fight than heiland or K9.
                  Its not about whether its a better fight than Heiland or k9. That's not what I'm asking.

                  What I'm asking is, is Cotto a MW or not? Or is he a MW when it comes to fighting any MW other than GGG and not a MW when he's being forced into a showdown with GGG?

                  Either he is or he isn't.

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                  • PeasantCrusha
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Deevel916
                    Testing the waters? What division did Cotto face Sergio Martinez at?
                    But... I thought Sergio was crippled?

                    What division did Sergio face GGG at?



                    Again, fans wanna act like it's an emergency for Cotto to face GGG, but were cool with GOAT Sergio the chin, avoiding GGG.



                    The bias is always comedy.


                    MAYBE, Cotto is thinking JUST LIKE GGG.


                    " Ward is not PPV ready...down the road it makes more sense." ~GGG

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                    • PeasantCrusha
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Deevel916
                      Its not about whether its a better fight than Heiland or k9. That's not what I'm asking.

                      What I'm asking is, is Cotto a MW or not? Or is he a MW when it comes to fighting any MW other than GGG and not a MW when he's being forced into a showdown with GGG?

                      Either he is or he isn't.
                      I think it's OBVIOUS Cotto is NOT a MW.


                      There is nothing confusing about it actually.


                      Cotto is NOT a MW against Geale, Heiland or GGG.


                      I think I have answered this question clearly.

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