Comments Thread For: Arum: We've Heard Mayweather is Not Looking Great

[rjack58]

Wasn't it Bob Arum who not to long ago was telling Floyd to sign the CONTRACT and there was NO CONTRACT to be SIGNED?

[kardsufur]

Everything Mayweather DOES Pacquiao, Roach or Arum have something to say. Mayweather has Chop Chop and Judah, who does Pacquiao have? Floyd's legs are "shot", but yet Pacquiao needs a $1800 cream for his legs? Today Justin Fortune said that Pacquiao "needs to suck it up, Mayweather isn't easy" and stop whining like a baby. Floyd gonna whoop that @$$ on May 2, 2015.

#facts yup. sounds to me like they're saying the complete opposite of the truth to cover up the facts that it's manny that's not looking good in camp. needing special creams and needing to change his entire training around cus his legs are shot

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One of Floyds sparing partners tells how he did well on one day , Floyd is done dinner lol .

[Bronx2245]

I think its part selling the fight, part trying to keep Manny in the media , and part to see if they can make Floyd and his camp think one thing to divert from training. I don't think Floyd and his camp pay any attention to it but I could be wrong.

Frankly, no matter what is said about this fight in the media, I go with 2 things:

what ****im Richardson said about Floyd before the Shane fight and
the way Bradley fought rounds 8-12 in the 1st Manny fight and rounds 1-6 in the 2nd.

just can't understand their PR team. Why is Justin Fortune talking about Manny's training? Do we NOT know who Justin Fortune is:

Ring Magazine:

March 12, 2010:

Roach said one of his former fighters, Justin Fortune, was known to have used PEDs and James Toney twice tested positive for steroids, once when he was working with Roach.

“I won’t say I didn’t know,” said Roach, referring to Toney. “I never asked him, though. I never had a conversation. I could see his body structure had signs, his traps and stuff. He was either lifting a lot of weight or he was on (something).

“… I think I had one other fighter on steroids also, Justin Fortune. … I know he’d been there before.”

http://******.craveonline.com/news/1...itive-for-peds

So you replace Alex Ariza with Justin Fortune, afte you admit that Fortune was one of two fighters you had, that were on PEDs? Why?

[jjsmyth87]

Everything Mayweather DOES Pacquiao, Roach or Arum have something to say. Mayweather has Chop Chop and Judah, who does Pacquiao have? Floyd's legs are "shot", but yet Pacquiao needs a $1800 cream for his legs? Today Justin Fortune said that Pacquiao "needs to suck it up, Mayweather isn't easy" and stop whining like a baby. Floyd gonna whoop that @$$ on May 2, 2015.

Chop chop corely hasn't even been a contender in years. He is a lowly gatekeeper, and zab Judah is barely a top 20 junior welterweight. Definitely wayy past his prime as well. And the other one is this Moore dude who's not even a contender and is large inactive. Pacquiao has Ken SIMMs Jr. Who is a mayweather look alike and is young and hungry. Very skilled fighter. Also ray Beltran who was the number 2 guy at lightweight until he lost to crwford in his last fight. Hes fighting for the title in may on trutv. Also dierry jean who is a hard hitting top light welterweight who's only loss is against Lamont peterson in a close fight. He also uses the shoulder roll defense. There is no comparison, mannys sparring partners are on a different level than floyds.

[jjsmyth87]

Wasn't it Bob Arum who not to long ago was telling Floyd to sign the CONTRACT and there was NO CONTRACT to be SIGNED?

Actually there was q contract which Manny posted to his instagram with his signature on it. Floyd was desperate to avoid pacquiao but was shamed into taking the fight. Those are the facts

[richardt]

2 things you should NEVER see into. #1, talk about how a fighter looks in training and sparring. Quincy Taylor dropped Sugar Ray Leonard during a sparring session for the Hagler fight. Didn't matter fight night. #2, saying one fighter is scared during a stare down either before the fight or in a promo. Otherwise, if most people were right, Guerrero would have beaten Mayweather and Donaire would have beaten Rigo. Training, sparring, and stare downs don't count, especially when there are bad rumors, bias, or incorrect reports. Not to say that those things don't happen in sparring because Broner got fk up by Spence and Leonard got dropped by Taylor but that is not something that can be used to indicate how they will perform in the fight they are training for.

[Build That Wall]

One of Floyds sparing partners tells how he did well on one day , Floyd is done dinner lol .

This guy is well spoken.

[Bronx2245]

Who is Justin Fortune (Manny's current S&C coach):

February 2, 2012:

Justin Fortune sued Freddie Roach for allegedly telling a reporter he previously used performance enhancing drugs. After denying a motion by Roach’s attorney seeking dismissal of Fortune’s complaint on grounds it violated his right to free speech, the judge set a trial date of April 10.

Fortune is an Australian native and former power lifter who moved to the United States to compete as a boxer. He trained under Roach in the 1990s and later became Pacquiao’s conditioning coach.

The alleged defamation concerns a comment Roach made in a March 2010 interview with a reporter for the online publication ******.com.

After discussing boxer James Toney, Roach then told the reporter, “I think had one other fighter on steroids … Justin Fortune. I know that he’d been there before.”

In a sworn declaration in support of the dismissal motion, Roach said Fortune admitted to him that he used performance enhancing drugs, or PEDs.

“During the time that I trained (Fortune), (he) told me that he had used cycled performance enhancing drugs when he was training for the World Games as a power lifter in his home country of Australia,” Roach said in the statement. “Based on the information provided me by plaintiff, I believed that (he) had used PEDs.”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/...-out-in-court/

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Chop chop corely hasn't even been a contender in years. He is a lowly gatekeeper, and zab Judah is barely a top 20 junior welterweight. Definitely wayy past his prime as well. And the other one is this Moore dude who's not even a contender and is large inactive. Pacquiao has Ken SIMMs Jr. Who is a mayweather look alike and is young and hungry. Very skilled fighter. Also ray Beltran who was the number 2 guy at lightweight until he lost to crwford in his last fight. Hes fighting for the title in may on trutv. Also dierry jean who is a hard hitting top light welterweight who's only loss is against Lamont peterson in a close fight. He also uses the shoulder roll defense. There is no comparison, mannys sparring partners are on a different level than floyds.

Sparring is about work , 4 average sparing partners if selected for certain traits and rotated to suit can give you better work than one great one , all this they must emulate the fighter is BS ,these guys know how to fight its about getting in shape and getting their hand eye timing on point .

And on another note I believe Corleys opinion out weighs yours 10,000 to 1 .