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Originally posted by Pigeons View PostOne of the most overrated resumes on this forum. He is 0-1 vs. Ward. Took him 2 fights to beat Kessler (Ward whitewashed Kessler the first time around). Got a hometown decision vs. Dirrell. Was literally seconds away from losing to a shot, blown-up Jermain Taylor.
He gets credit for taking Pascal and Bute's zeroes from me. Even though Pascal's best work came at LHW and Bute's career-best win is Sakio Bika, I still give him a lot of credit for those performances.
His wins over Abraham and Groves are very overrated. He gets more credit for the Abraham victory than Ward even though Dirrell was the one that really exposed Abraham and Groves is a nobody. It seems that the Brits have convinced themselves that 80K in attendance means that the victory actually means something.
Froch is a good fighter but he's 6 years older than Ward, with an equal resume. He's not Superman.
The Abraham win was superb, Froch showed another dimension and boxed the shht out of him. Those other guys beat Abraham using their style, Froch beat him using someone elses.
Bute was being touted as a killer, and Ward was a fraud for not fighting him..... oh, until Froch bashed him silly, and Ward was proven correct..... " Bute is not on my level, he needs to prove himself by beating a genuine contender first ".
Nobody said Froch was superman..... usually I prefer more technical fighters, but the guy gets himself in sick shape, will take on anyone, and he comes to fight...... I have really enjoyed Frochs career, and I thank him warmly for the great fights.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostIt's 100% about money.
Froch will take the fight that brings him the most money, guaranteed. that happens to be against Chavez. If Ward was a £5million payday for him, he'd take that.
He's said this multiple times. He knows he could quite possibly lose to Ward. He knows it. But he also knows he has the chance to go down as an ATG - and he will - if he knocks out Ward.
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Originally posted by arthurspooner View PostWard fought at light heavy in the amateurs but walked around at 171. I've seen him weigh in at tourneys when he moved up. He was actually a small 165er. He was the #1 ranked guy at 165 but moved to 178 in hopes that his brother would win the Olympic trials at 165. And Froch doesn't remember(or know) much about the amateur circuit. You weigh in on fight night. Even tourneys you weigh in every day of the tourney(possibly Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday). So many amateurs can't cut the same kind of weight as pros can because pros weigh in the day before and only one time. Golovkin fought most his senior amateur career at 165 but as a pro makes 160 comfortably and said he could make 154. Pros weighing in only one time the day before is ridiculously a great advantage over the amateur system. Heck in the amateurs guys like Berto and Porter fought years at 165. They had no chance at making 147(later 152) the day of the fight and if they won that day they would have to make weight the next day then the next day and possibly the next day.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostI thought the negotiation period would be over by now. When is the purse bid?
The two press releases yesterday seem like they are intended to hype the fight. Hearn's Sky interview also made me optimistic.
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Originally posted by Pigeons View PostWBA gave them 30 days on February 28. Hopefully the lack of a purse bid means that both parties have informed the WBA they are close to a deal.
The two press releases yesterday seem like they are intended to hype the fight. Hearn's Sky interview also made me optimistic.
I genuinely don't think either guy really wants the fight but at the same time neither of them want to blink first.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostI felt the opposite. Sounded like Hearn was leaning more towards the Chavez fight.
I genuinely don't think either guy really wants the fight but at the same time neither of them want to blink first.
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