Zab Judah on Freddie Roach

[HanzGruber]

Zab is just mad that when it's all said and done he'll be nothing more than a mere footnote in the history of the sport while Roach will be considered one of the greatest trainers of all time.

And Judah's career is barely anything to brag about. You were a 5 times champion in an era where there is 4 belts per division. I'm pretty sure Freddie could have won a few championships too if you could fight 13-5-2 fighters for a championship.

Lol zab had his ups and downs but he was 10x the boxer than Freddie was

[SilverMiles]

Judah held the wbo and ibf(2x) and was also undisputed welterweight champion

Cory Spinks was no scrub, nor was Terron Millet, Junior Witter, Lucas Matthyssee, or Micky Ward

Roach would have lost to all of Judah's decent competition



Roach was getting beat up by journeymen and club fighters




His connections to Eddie Futch helped Roach get a lot of clients but Judah was right.....name one fighter that wasn't already a champion or contender before they got to Roach....he is great but overrated because of his Parkinson's condition....**** the feel good story when you talk trash and was a C-class fighter criticizing a former world champion

Sorry dude but like I said if Judah fought during a time were there was only 1 or 2 titles he wouldn't be a champion either. He only impressive world title win was the Cory Spink victory. Every other belt he held was against less than stellar competition, must of the time the belt was vacant.

Don't get me wrong Judah's a better fighter than Roach but Roach is a more important figure in the world of boxing. and Roach's accomplishment as trainers far outweighs Judah's as a fighter.

And like I said earlier it doesn't matter if you take a fighter from when they were 8 up into their adult years, it just mean you found your perfect fighter at an early age. Roach has been with Manny since 126lbs and has been there with him through his must important accomplishments.

And for Judah to say Judel, Angel, or Floyd Sr. are better trainers than Roach is pure ******ity.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Lol @ golovkin deleting his post in here

I saw it too. What a b1tch he is

[The_Sandman]

Zab is just mad that when it's all said and done he'll be nothing more than a mere footnote in the history of the sport while Roach will be considered one of the greatest trainers of all time.

And Judah's career is barely anything to brag about. You were a 5 times champion in an era where there is 4 belts per division. I'm pretty sure Freddie could have won a few championships too if you could fight 13-5-2 fighters for a championship.

Lol. No. No matter how much you hate Judah and love Freddie right now, Judah is right here. Freddie, in any era, was nowhere near Judah.

[mastertech1985]

Sorry dude but like I said if Judah fought during a time were there was only 1 or 2 titles he wouldn't be a champion either. He only impressive world title win was the Cory Spink victory. Every other belt he held was against less than stellar competition, must of the time the belt was vacant.

Don't get me wrong Judah's a better fighter than Roach but Roach is a more important figure in the world of boxing. and Roach's accomplishment as trainers far outweighs Judah's as a fighter.

And like I said earlier it doesn't matter if you take a fighter from when they were 8 up into their adult years, it just mean you found your perfect fighter at an early age. Roach has been with Manny since 126lbs and has been there with him through his must important accomplishments.

And for Judah to say Judel, Angel, or Floyd Sr. are better trainers than Roach is pure ******ity.

the ******ity is you putting words in my mouth

I said they actually built champions from scratch and train some as well



Did Roach ever make a champ from scratch? did I miss something?



Manny was already a former world champion like everyone else Roach has trained

[Bullrider]

Wow. Jeff Mayweather trashes him and he trashes Roach. Judah fans are blaming Boxing Scene, instead of Jeff Mayweather. They can't trash their gods.

[The_Sandman]

Manny makes "fundamental mistakes" sure but so does every great fighter (including Floyd who leaves his chin in the air after throwing his overhand right) because when you stick to the "fundamentals" you end up being just an average fighter.

Any fighter can be thought to be discipline and it doesn't matter what age you get them at. In fact it's much more difficult to discipline a fighter once they get older compared to when their younger. The most important thing is getting the best out of you fighter and Roach has done that with some many fighters.

Just because you luck up and great some super talented kid doesn't make you a good trainer it just mean you were the closest gym.

I don't agree with it being more difficult to discipline a fighter once they get older than younger. My friend, who is a Muay Thai trainer says training kids is so much harder because nobody as a kid "wants" to do sports like boxing or muay thai. You don't "play" boxing like you "play" basketball. It's not what you would call..."fun." It's work. It's easier to put a ball in a kid's hand than a pair of boxing gloves. Kid's aren't going to understand the discipline of boxing. Adults on the other hand will understand the benefits of boxing. Whether its self-defense, getting in shape, feeling healthier and more confident. But one of the most frustrating thing for my friend is teaching kids how to properly throw a jab. Oh, and how easily sidetracked they get. So I don't understand how it is harder to instill discipline in adults. And no. I don't think Floyd Mayweather was "luck" or "coincidence". I think he's a product of his father and uncles. He was taught his craft from a young age. Maybe you're saying it was "luck" that he was born into that family, but we're talking about trainers. It's not luck that they have a great fighter.

[jjbj2]

Zab makes sense but HE IS OLD.

He is old and that is a fact. BUT his comment is straight up correct.

[_original_]

Roach is definitely a HOF trainer, but Zab was on point with pretty much everything else.

[Strategic1]

Funny you say Freddie wins. That was Zab's first point. He's not fighting May 2nd.

I did say Zab made a few good points. If he just kept it at... Freddie did nothing much as a fighter..and that Zab is a 5x world champ...and freddie is a heavy bag. That's cool. He would have clowned Roach nice.

But saying Roach is not a HOF trainer... ok, that's just nonsense. even BHop gives Freddie his due as he was trained before by him for a short time.

How you end your trash talk is just as important as how you start it.

But yes, Roach does talk a lot of crap sometimes. But it shouldn't be taken that seriously.

I think he's trolling most of the time