Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Pacquiao is Reckless, Makes Many Mistakes

[Sindawg364]

Accurate punching, advantage Mayweather
Jab, advantage Mayweather
Footwork, advantage Mayweather
Defense, advantage Mayweather
Boxing ability, advantage Mayweather
Inside fighting, advantage Mayweather

Hatton vs Mayweather : watch Hatton dip his shoulder before throwing his punches. WATCH mayweather check hook him all day right after he dips.

Jim vs Pacquiao : watch Marquez, dip left and counter Pacquiao jab with straight rights. Watch Bradley, and Algeria do the same. Watch Manny, hop, hop and jump in to punch. Watch JMM, Algeria and Bradley stop him in his tracks and /or lift him off his feet.

Watch Manny's boxing smarts against Marquez. His punch output decreases, and is left to run in throwing punches. Watch Marquez sit in the pocket in balance or take a step back Controlling distance.

The most highly hyped fight in history is about money. It is the most one sided fight, when you have a so call FOY, whose only chance is to land a lucky punch....against the smartest, and best defensive fighter of all time.

[Deevel916]

Accurate punching, advantage Mayweather
Jab, advantage Mayweather
Footwork, advantage Mayweather
Defense, advantage Mayweather
Boxing ability, advantage Mayweather
Inside fighting, advantage Mayweather

Hatton vs Mayweather : watch Hatton dip his shoulder before throwing his punches. WATCH mayweather check hook him all day right after he dips.

Jim vs Pacquiao : watch Marquez, dip left and counter Pacquiao jab with straight rights. Watch Bradley, and Algeria do the same. Watch Manny, hop, hop and jump in to punch. Watch JMM, Algeria and Bradley stop him in his tracks and /or lift him off his feet.

Watch Manny's boxing smarts against Marquez. His punch output decreases, and is left to run in throwing punches. Watch Marquez sit in the pocket in balance or take a step back Controlling distance.

The most highly hyped fight in history is about money. It is the most one sided fight, when you have a so call FOY, whose only chance is to land a lucky punch....against the smartest, and best defensive fighter of all time.

I take it you're putting all the money you have and everything you own down on Floyd? From your post its a 100% sure win for Floyd.

[Sindawg364]

Exactly... people keeps saying pac is open to the right hand, as if he is just standing there not doing anything. Those guys who lands that right will either have to dodge 3-4 power punches (or eat a few) before they can land their 1 counter.

No they dont...they counter his lazy jab, and time him jumping in. when he flurries, the normally go into a defensive stance due to the speed.

[Hands of Stone]

floyd vs pac looks like floydhatton w/o hattons inside fighting knowledge (notice i didnt say effectiveness) and w/o hattons 2 handedness

I really think manny and hatton use similar head movement but hatton from wat i saw slips shots better especially when u get predicable like floyd did during the middle rounds i gave hatton round 5 and 6 of that fight, but i think hatton was competitive and rough..that being said i dont see hatton's jab in manny's arsenal or the variety of punches...floyd easy in this one..i know the response is manny is faster than hatton..but speed not a one sided thing in this fight..reflexes become more important when both guys have speed

I 'll give you bit of props, u seem to have Hatton's analysis down a bit but with respect to his comparison to Manny, with all due respect, u don't know what the heck you are talking about. Hatton couldn't be more different from Manny.

Let's look at your points, first of all Hatton has little to no head movement, his foot movement creates the illusion that his head is moving that quickly. Secondly, Hatton's jab is not utilized to keep u away from him but rather used as a range finder in addition to his foot movement to aid advance inwards so he can get into the mauling range where he feels comfortable fighting. Therefore a straight right down the middle or jab down the middle causes him to reset essentially making him ineffective unless his opponents stays on the rope or he gets them on the rope.

Now on to Manny, he doesn't throw a conventional jab but those who know boxing can see that Manny does something that mirrors a jab and even could be more effective than a jab when he does it. Manny leans in and throws a straight left, and kind of rolls underneath that punch often times ducking to his left, it is strong enough to bloody your nose (go look at the Marquez fight), then he 'll come back and touch u quickly with a right jab. All of this is done with speed and his excellent footwork that I still haven't seen anyone counter that move yet.

Manny's movement can't be more different than Hatton. Hatton again come in semi lateral but predictably in a straight line, Manny comes him almost laterally but with great upper body rhythm which creates that herky jerky movement that makes it difficult to know what punch is coming. Where I think Manny gets in trouble is when he makes this move and plants his leg and tries to unload that straight left without that quick right jab. He was able to get away with it in the past 'cos his chin was granite but with that Marquez KO, he seem to have dispensed with that move and box a bit more.

Easy fight, I think not. There is a reason why Manny has dominated his opponents just like Floyd has, even at this stages in their careers. The reason is because they are just not great fighters, they are elite fighters. Put a Brandon Rios in with Marquez and am not so sure Marquez beats him but yet Pac toys with him for 12 rounds after a brutal knockout.

With speed being equal, I see Manny's power also keeping Floyd honest going on the defensive for even longer stretches and trust me, Pac's power will be a factor. Unlike other fighters, Pac will not be tiring like all other Floyd's opponents neither would you be able to discourage Pac unless you separate him from his senses like Marquez did, something I just don't see Floyd doing 'cos it's just not his nature.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

I 'll give you bit of props, u seem to have Hatton's analysis down a bit but with respect to his comparison to Manny, with all due respect, u don't know what the heck you are talking about. Hatton couldn't be more different from Manny.

Let's look at your points, first of all Hatton has little to no head movement, his foot movement creates the illusion that his head is moving that quickly. Secondly, Hatton's jab is not utilized to keep u away from him but rather used as a range finder in addition to his foot movement to aid advance inwards so he can get into the mauling range where he feels comfortable fighting. Therefore a straight right down the middle or jab down the middle causes him to reset essentially making him ineffective unless his opponents stays on the rope or he gets them on the rope.

Now on to Manny, he doesn't throw a conventional jab but those who know boxing can see that Manny does something that mirrors a jab and even could be more effective than a jab when he does it. Manny leans in and throws a straight left, and kind of rolls underneath that punch often times ducking to his left, it is strong enough to bloody your nose (go look at the Marquez fight), then he 'll come back and touch u quickly with a right jab. All of this is done with speed and his excellent footwork that I still haven't seen anyone counter that move yet.

Manny's movement can't be more different than Hatton. Hatton again come in semi lateral but predictably in a straight line, Manny comes him almost laterally but with great upper body rhythm which creates that herky jerky movement that makes it difficult to know what punch is coming. Where I think Manny gets in trouble is when he makes this move and plants his leg and tries to unload that straight left without that quick right jab. He was able to get away with it in the past 'cos his chin was granite but with that Marquez KO, he seem to have dispensed with that move and box a bit more.

Easy fight, I think not. There is a reason why Manny has dominated his opponents just like Floyd has, even at this stages in their careers. The reason is because they are just not great fighters, they are elite fighters. Put a Brandon Rios in with Marquez and am not so sure Marquez beats him but yet Pac toys with him for 12 rounds after a brutal knockout.

With speed being equal, I see Manny's power also keeping Floyd honest going on the defensive for even longer stretches and trust me, Pac's power will be a factor. Unlike other fighters, Pac will not be tiring like all other Floyd's opponents neither would you be able to discourage Pac unless you separate him from his senses like Marquez did, something I just don't see Floyd doing 'cos it's just not his nature.

Excellent post!

It's good to see somebody go into detail and explain why this isn't an easy fight for Floyd like some people say. Heck, I don't think even Floyd thinks that this will be an easy fight.

[Sindawg364]

I take it you're putting all the money you have and everything you own down on Floyd? From your post its a 100% sure win for Floyd.

Not a betting man, have too many family obligations. What I am is a 20 plus year fan of the sport of boxing.

I believe all of my posts, I have provided insight, and reference facts. Not only have I watched all of both fighters entire fights, I've payed attention to the business side of boxing which I'm 50/50.

What I will say, is Pacquiao team has done a great job of building him up. You can't be a P4P champion with such brutal knockouts on your record.

I left out a lot of advantages, i.e., size, reach, body work, chin, etc. It's great to discuss the fight with intelligent boxing fans, which is the only reason I joined the forum.

Give me your reason(s) that Manny will win the fight, if that's who you're picking.

[Sindawg364]

I 'll give you bit of props, u seem to have Hatton's analysis down a bit but with respect to his comparison to Manny, with all due respect, u don't know what the heck you are talking about. Hatton couldn't be more different from Manny.

Let's look at your points, first of all Hatton has little to no head movement, his foot movement creates the illusion that his head is moving that quickly. Secondly, Hatton's jab is not utilized to keep u away from him but rather used as a range finder in addition to his foot movement to aid advance inwards so he can get into the mauling range where he feels comfortable fighting. Therefore a straight right down the middle or jab down the middle causes him to reset essentially making him ineffective unless his opponents stays on the rope or he gets them on the rope.

Now on to Manny, he doesn't throw a conventional jab but those who know boxing can see that Manny does something that mirrors a jab and even could be more effective than a jab when he does it. Manny leans in and throws a straight left, and kind of rolls underneath that punch often times ducking to his left, it is strong enough to bloody your nose (go look at the Marquez fight), then he 'll come back and touch u quickly with a right jab. All of this is done with speed and his excellent footwork that I still haven't seen anyone counter that move yet.

Manny's movement can't be more different than Hatton. Hatton again come in semi lateral but predictably in a straight line, Manny comes him almost laterally but with great upper body rhythm which creates that herky jerky movement that makes it difficult to know what punch is coming. Where I think Manny gets in trouble is when he makes this move and plants his leg and tries to unload that straight left without that quick right jab. He was able to get away with it in the past 'cos his chin was granite but with that Marquez KO, he seem to have dispensed with that move and box a bit more.

Easy fight, I think not. There is a reason why Manny has dominated his opponents just like Floyd has, even at this stages in their careers. The reason is because they are just not great fighters, they are elite fighters. Put a Brandon Rios in with Marquez and am not so sure Marquez beats him but yet Pac toys with him for 12 rounds after a brutal knockout.

With speed being equal, I see Manny's power also keeping Floyd honest going on the defensive for even longer stretches and trust me, Pac's power will be a factor. Unlike other fighters, Pac will not be tiring like all other Floyd's opponents neither would you be able to discourage Pac unless you separate him from his senses like Marquez did, something I just don't see Floyd doing 'cos it's just not his nature.

Lots of great points that I agree. It was Hatton's foot speed that gave the impression he was moving his head. Hatton was a straight line fighter.

I see Manny's movement as part of his lack of boxing skills, and rely more on his athletic ability to be offensive.

[St. Johns Gent]

nothin but truth from MayVinci himself

[twosweethooks]

Mind games hahahahahaha

It doesn't matter what JR does or says

It doesn't matter how many miles he runs , how many sparring partners he has

NOTHING matters but that he steps in the ring.

A PACIFIC STORM IS WAITING to UNLEASH ITS FURY.

talk is cheap, so talk after.

[twosweethooks]

Uh, no. It was that Manny didn't want to take the test.

The same one he's taking now for the fight.

BS !!!!!!!!!!! like as in B___S___ !!!!!!!!

So is this the same reason Jr ducked a prime Cotto and a PRIME MARGO? It appeared when Margo came to JR , JR had PEED his panties

Didn't take the test is the dumbest thang a mang like you and others can say, and do you realize you are showing yer azzzzzzzzzzzz and making yerself look like a fool as well as the others ?

do ya ??? hahahahahhah yall are so funny