Is Loma that good, was Russell having a bad night vs Loma or was Gonzalez overrated?

[!! Shawn]

Gonzalez has been over the hill for a very long time. It was a huge upset that he beat Mares. He got extremely lucky and caught Mares with something big early in the fight. Chinny, slow, but can punch.

Fairly easy task for Russel, who is fast, and slick.

Another hand picked Haymon farce. They are just lucky that they managed to keep Gonzalez away from any real threats long enough to gift his title to Gary Russel.

[MurkaMan]

Didn't they weigh the same going into the ring? Russell was lean and hard. If both fighters carry no extra bodyfat and they weigh the same then they are the same size. Lomo is taller but they are the same weight so neither is bigger.

IDC about the weight. One guy is too big for the other. Im not pointing it out to discredit Lomo, Im just saying that a good big man beats a good little man. And both are equally talented, so their was no way that Gary was going to win.

[ramses07]

one of the reasons russell looked horrible against loma is bc he stepped up in talent in a big way. the dude was fighting bums and then decides to fight a guy like lomanchenko lol

still think loma beats him especially after watching those highlights, russell didnt know what to do or how to adjust he just kept throw quick combos

[Outwest Exp 355]

It has nothing to do with being overrated. Russell just lost to a better fighter. No shame in that at all.

[-PBP-]

Loma is good, Russell is good, Mares is good, Jhonny is good and Salido is good. And when good fighters actually face each other, they win some and they lose some.

This era is so obsessed with the 0.

[bojangles1987]

It has nothing to do with being overrated. Russell just lost to a better fighter. No shame in that at all.

Pretty much. Same with Russell and Gonzalez.

[#1Assassin]

it's a combination of most things imo.

gonzales is a good fighter but he has always depended on that power a whole lot. his boxing skills aren't all that good and neither is his chin, but he is a good fighter.

russell definitely wasn't at his best against lomachenko. his speed wasn't the same, he wasn't sitting down on his punches and had absolutely no stamina whatsoever.

i just assumed he was the bully type who looks great against lesser opposition but shrinks in the face of resistance. but after hearing him explain the situation with his S&C coach going into the lomachenko fight and seeing him dispatch of gonzalez when properly prepared, that's no longer the case. dude had an off night.

finally, lomachenko is the wrong guy to have an off night against. he really is the goods, a tremendous talent. he would beat russell on his best night imo, just not as easily.

still, comparing him to roy jones, whitaker, pacquiao, robinson and mayweather at this point is blasphemous. he hasn't even proved he is the best in his division at this time let alone one of the best ever p4p.

he is a monster talent, but so was judah, jermain taylor, broner, linares etc. all good fighters but all falling way short of their expectations, let's see what lomachenko does before we compare him to legends.

[Dr Rumack]

Loma is good. It's too soon to tell anything else. Maybe he'll go on to be great, or maybe Walters beats the stuffing out of him.

[Box-Office]

How the hell is Gonzalez over rated? The guy is the definition of a consummate professional. Guys with losses in their first 10 fights yet still go on to win multiple World titles. Who over rated Jhonny? If anything don't be surprised he works his way back to a title fight and win it.

[Box-Office]

Loma is good, Russell is good, Mares is good, Jhonny is good and Salido is good. And when good fighters actually face each other, they win some and they lose some.

This era is so obsessed with the 0.

Very well said!!!

At this level it is tomate tamato. Salido makes up the lack of talent in exprience and toughness. That not trying to make the weight move against Loma was pure boss.