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  • Barcham
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    #51
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    The answer is simple and the same one I give to Rigo and he gets ****. If you are SOOO much better than everyone else and make comfortable, challenge yourself and move up in weight. Manny did it, Floyd did it, Cotto did it, FFS Broner did it.

    Danny Garcia should ****ing do it, but he's a b*tch too and can't move down. I'm not going to that level with GGG yet, because he's being ducked by name SMW's as well and he legitimately can't get fights. But, that doesn't mean you can beat up on sparring partners in the meantime, while others are afraid you aren't worth the risk. I give Rigo the same **** and GGG is working his way up that list but as I stated, he's being ducked more than Rigo.
    If a SMW wants to fight GGG, all he has to do is make an offer. If the offer is worth the effort to move up to a higher weight class, and that is not a simple thing to do, then I'm sure it will be considered. But people should not compare GGG to fighters such as Floyd or Pac who started their pro careers at a very young age at a very light weight and moved up in weight as their bodies matured.

    Not everyone's body is the same and not everyone can make weight division changes as easily as others. There have been many ATG champions who spent the majority of their careers at one weight class. I do not feel that GGG should move to SMW unless he intends to make the change permanent. He should not bounce between divisions unless it is for a decent PPV payday and right now, there is no PPV payday at SMW waiting for him.

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    • Nightfall
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      #52
      cotto vs bundrage should be the fight.

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        #53
        or cotto vs lara

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        • Beater_of_ass
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          #54
          Originally posted by Bardock
          Fixed it for ya
          So you agree the fight was basically a no-contest? Is is so hard to agree? Also, do you really think that bothers anyone anymore? You're the old HS QB Rob Lowe, it's like your only trophy of a Mexican doing anything to Cotto, you admit it was tainted and yet... still put your trophies in front of the TV all while collecting food stamps. The American Dream, Bardock.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Barcham
            If a SMW wants to fight GGG, all he has to do is make an offer. If the offer is worth the effort to move up to a higher weight class, and that is not a simple thing to do, then I'm sure it will be considered. But people should not compare GGG to fighters such as Floyd or Pac who started their pro careers at a very young age at a very light weight and moved up in weight as their bodies matured.

            Not everyone's body is the same and not everyone can make weight division changes as easily as others. There have been many ATG champions who spent the majority of their careers at one weight class. I do not feel that GGG should move to SMW unless he intends to make the change permanent. He should not bounce between divisions unless it is for a decent PPV payday and right now, there is no PPV payday at SMW waiting for him.
            Why are you still making excuses for GGG not moving up? I know his body is probably best at MW, Cotto is better at 154. He still at least stepped up and faced Sergio. Manny went up to 150 to face Margaritio and he's small for 147 he should be at 140. Floyd fought Oscar, Cotto and Canelol and at JMW. Another case where he is better a division lower, that's not my point. My point was these smaller guys who beat the piss out of guys in their division moved up to challenge themselves. I didn't say GGG had to move up 5 divisions, just one since he's wiped out 160.

            Do you understand yet? I know GGG is a beast, I know he's being ducked and can't get a fight. The make an offer excuse is bull**** since he's the one looking for a fight, when you want to buy a pizza do you wait for ****ing Papa Johns to bring you the menu or do you look it up online and let them know you're looking for a pizza? He won't get a big money fight at 168 right now, but I'm sure these fringe 168 guys will give him a shot. I know as a fan I'd rather see GGG in there with someone who can put up a little fight as opposed to a 3 round KO. I get he's in a tough position which is why I'm not giving him any ****, but the "he can't get any big fights" doesn't mean he shouldn't challenge himself.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
              So you agree the fight was basically a no-contest? Is is so hard to agree? Also, do you really think that bothers anyone anymore? You're the old HS QB Rob Lowe, it's like your only trophy of a Mexican doing anything to Cotto, you admit it was tainted and yet... still put your trophies in front of the TV all while collecting food stamps. The American Dream, Bardock.
              [IMG]http://i116.***********.com/albums/o14/richdada/TONYKO4.gif[/IMG]

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                #57
                Originally posted by Bardock
                [IMG]http://i116.***********.com/albums/o14/richdada/TONYKO4.gif[/IMG]
                Cotto got his revenge on Margarito and ****ed up both him and Martinez up so bad he beat his gay into both of them.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  Why are you still making excuses for GGG not moving up? I know his body is probably best at MW, Cotto is better at 154. He still at least stepped up and faced Sergio. Manny went up to 150 to face Margaritio and he's small for 147 he should be at 140. Floyd fought Oscar, Cotto and Canelol and at JMW. Another case where he is better a division lower, that's not my point. My point was these smaller guys who beat the piss out of guys in their division moved up to challenge themselves. I didn't say GGG had to move up 5 divisions, just one since he's wiped out 160.

                  Do you understand yet? I know GGG is a beast, I know he's being ducked and can't get a fight. The make an offer excuse is bull**** since he's the one looking for a fight, when you want to buy a pizza do you wait for ****ing Papa Johns to bring you the menu or do you look it up online and let them know you're looking for a pizza? He won't get a big money fight at 168 right now, but I'm sure these fringe 168 guys will give him a shot. I know as a fan I'd rather see GGG in there with someone who can put up a little fight as opposed to a 3 round KO. I get he's in a tough position which is why I'm not giving him any ****, but the "he can't get any big fights" doesn't mean he shouldn't challenge himself.
                  GGG has yet to wipe out the MW division. He has not fought Quillin, Lee, Saunders, Eubank Jr., Lemieux, N'Dam, Cotto, etc...

                  There is much more competition for him at MW than there is at SMW. At SMW there is who? Ward? Not close to being ready. Dirrell? Busy. Degale? Busy. Groves? Busy. That leaves who? Abraham? Not a chance will he be interested, he ducked at MW and will do the same at SMW. Froch? Busy with Chavez Jr. and Ward before being able to consider GGG and will probably retire first. Sturm? Ducked in the past and will continue to do so. JCC Jr.? Probably will move to LHW if he survives his next fight. If he loses he is done as a major factor in the division. Already had his chance and walked away. Signed with Haymon making a GGG fight next to impossible.

                  So SMW is no better, probably even worse, than MW is for GGG. He wants to unify at MW and people should respect his goal. He will move up when he is ready and will probably do the same things there as he does at MW.

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                  • Beater_of_ass
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Barcham
                    GGG has yet to wipe out the MW division. He has not fought Quillin, Lee, Saunders, Eubank Jr., Lemieux, N'Dam, Cotto, etc...

                    There is much more competition for him at MW than there is at SMW. At SMW there is who? Ward? Not close to being ready. Dirrell? Busy. Degale? Busy. Groves? Busy. That leaves who? Abraham? Not a chance will he be interested, he ducked at MW and will do the same at SMW. Froch? Busy with Chavez Jr. and Ward before being able to consider GGG and will probably retire first. Sturm? Ducked in the past and will continue to do so. JCC Jr.? Probably will move to LHW if he survives his next fight. If he loses he is done as a major factor in the division. Already had his chance and walked away. Signed with Haymon making a GGG fight next to impossible.

                    So SMW is no better, probably even worse, than MW is for GGG. He wants to unify at MW and people should respect his goal. He will move up when he is ready and will probably do the same things there as he does at MW.
                    Whatever you say boss.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                      Cotto got his revenge on Margarito and ****ed up both him and Martinez up so bad he beat his gay into both of them.

                      Damn Margo is a fa.g lol

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