They should make it illegal for you to come in 10lbs over the weight limit

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  • Deevel916
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    #51
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    everyone will still cut.

    except they won't rehydrate and die or get brain damaged.
    Then whos the idiot?

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #52
      Originally posted by Deevel916
      Then whos the idiot?
      The guy suggesting same day weigh ins?

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      • KayDub
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        #53
        Originally posted by DoubleMM
        bunch of frauds with no skill who are taking dieurticis and doing anything possible to come in at the weight then baloon up 20 lbs

        see mikey garcia

        see keith thurman

        you put these guys in their regular weight class what would happen to these so called "skilled fighters"\

        they would get sparked the **** out
        This is how boxing has always been. You guys are just getting used to seeing smaller guys move up in weight for paydays.

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        • jas
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          #54
          Originally posted by Golden Boi 360
          ...........
          He walks around near 122
          I didn't mean he had great chin

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          • JJRod
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            #55
            In reality this ballooning up in weight of 20lbs or more hurts the fighter more than it helps.

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            • Deevel916
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              #56
              If u have to damn near kill yourself in order to make weight then you're fighting in the wrong weightclass.

              I laugh when i hear fighters complaining about how hard it is to make weight. How about u just fight in your proper weight class idiot. Same day weigh weigh ins are the way to go. If a fighter suffers brain damage or dies while still trying to cheat a same day weigh in then he's an idiot.

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              • gdub27
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                #57
                Originally posted by jrrod02
                In reality this ballooning up in weight of 20lbs or more hurts the fighter more than it helps.
                Sometimes it hurts the other fighter. When Gotti KOd Gamache i thought he might've killed him.

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                • Dean_Razorback
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by gdub27
                  Sometimes it hurts the other fighter. When Gotti KOd Gamache i thought he might've killed him.
                  yeah, that was fucked up from gatti, gained back 20 lbs or something, gamache looked tiny next to him, and the KO was sickening

                  garcia/salka reminded me of that fight

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                  • JJRod
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by gdub27
                    Sometimes it hurts the other fighter. When Gotti KOd Gamache i thought he might've killed him.
                    Yes, but the disadvantages of cutting that much weight, outweigh the advantages IMO.

                    Working to cut that much weight takes time away from actual training, which hurts the fighter. Cutting weight you simply can't anymore makes you weak and less likely to be able to take a good punch. Not to mention ballooning over night 20+ pounds will definitely affect you that night in the ring.

                    Everyone on here is using the Salido example, but they're forgetting one thing. Salido never made weight for that fight. Had he been forced to actually make the weight, it would have weakened him and IMO probably changed the outcome of the fight.
                    It is also my believe that Gatti would have won the fight regardless of the weight advantage.
                    Last edited by JJRod; 03-23-2015, 10:24 PM.

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #60
                      Well, it was definitely abuse that Thurman was 10lbs higher than Guerrero. IIRC it was 162 vs 152. That was crazy, but common. Canelo vs Trout were basically LHW's on fight night, they were both 171-172.

                      But that's what makes an ATG - an ATG. Maywather and Pacquiao fight exactly at the weight they walk in, 148-150 and, they are constantly at 10-15lb weight disadvantage, AND, they still win. Like, does anyone really give a 162lb Thurman a real chance at beating a mere 150lb Mayweather? This is where skill outweighs weight.

                      Guerrero just wasn't good enough to deal with Thurman's movement, power and speed. They could have both been 152lbs, Guerrero wasn't wrestled down and manhandled, he was simply outboxed and outlanded.

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