can you outbox someone with too much power?

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  • wenceslao
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    #1

    can you outbox someone with too much power?

    can ggg or thurman be outboxed? seems to me like the way to defeat those guys is to knock them out with your own massive power
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    #2
    I think you'd have to fight a perfect fight and would have to be an incredible boxer to pull it off. It's been done in the past so it's certainly possible, oscar and Bhop vs tito comes to mind.

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    • babynuts
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      #3
      It's possible but you need to have the perfect plan and 100% concentration all the way through the fight. People like Mayweather and Hopkins can do it because it's not just their intelligence, but their ability to have a zen-like focus on the fight and not be distracted or lose concentration for even a moment. These type of fighters do not care if they stink the joint out, as long as they get the W and It would take something like doing that, unless you can knock them out.

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      • Build That Wall
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        #4
        Ward can outbox GGG and Kovalev.

        Mayweather can outbox thurman.


        FFS Algieri outboxed Provodnikov.

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        • Sugar Adam Ali
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          #5
          Of course those guys can be outboxed..

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            #6
            No nobody ever outboxed Mike Tyson or Foreman.

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            • -Kev-
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              #7
              Didn't Provodnikov get outboxed by Herrera and Algieri?

              Also, I felt that Judah edged Matthysse, he outboxed him.

              There's many recent examples in the past 5 years.

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              • sunny31
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                #8
                Its been proven time and again. It will always happen to punchers eventually, whether it is a 12 round decision or they reach their demise within the distance. Rather than thinking of a fighter being able to avoid that big shot, think of it more that the KO artist has to find it and replicate that over and over, and it is more likely that fighters eventually evade those shots for 12 rounds, or a KO shot at least especially as the level of competition becomes higher. I think in most cases, making the big puncher hesitant to throw plays a big part in beating them, this usually happens when the opposing fighter makes them miss and makes them pay early in the fight with regularity. Very quickly the fight looks totally different to how you pictured it, and the KO artist doesn't look like the monster he was previously.

                If you take Kovalev as an example, I can already see how Kovalev can be outboxed, for others it is difficult to see because Kovalev destroyed Pascal who had a solid chin and is highly rated, but Pascal has never been defensively responsible, furthermore he doesn't like fighting at a pace, which Kovalev forced him to do. But if you look at evidence in Kovalev's previous fights, including the Pascal fight, he can be hit and he is not the fastest guy in the world. He was also easily countered by Pascal in some of the middle rounds. Its not to say he isn't an exceptional fighter, because he is, but in my honest opinion don't be surprised if Stevenson makes him look ****** at times in that fight.

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                • Rockin'
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                  #9
                  Whitaker/Chavez
                  Leonard/Hagler
                  Grove/Fenech
                  Robinson/Gatti I II
                  Nunn/Barkley
                  etc.

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                  • mathed
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                    #10
                    The problem arises when you have to beat speed, power, agility, reflexes too. A guy that is strictly a power puncher can be outboxed but the power is one of the most pronounced attributes because it has a lasting effect.

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