Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao a Much Better Boxer Than Mayweather

[D4thincarnation]

I dont know what you mean ?

He is currently the best 147'lber, and 154'lber, on the planet.

Supremacy means you clean out the division.

He has never been anywhere near.

[D4thincarnation]

That is the 3rd meaningless stat referenced on this 1 page.

So far we got.....

* number of divisional titles
* number of lineal titles
* highlight reels

I would just about kill my mother for a good ol chat about divisional supremacy / title defences

You can tell you are a Floyd fan

[PivotandRoll]

That is the 3rd meaningless stat referenced on this 1 page.

So far we got.....

* number of divisional titles
* number of lineal titles
* highlight reels

I would just about kill my mother for a good ol chat about divisional supremacy / title defences

Are you really suggesting the ability to beat bigger men in no way plays a part in a fighters greatness? That is absurd.

[aboutfkntime]

Supremacy means you clean out the division.

He has never been anywhere near.

Dude, he is currently the best 147'lber, and the best 154'lber, on the planet.

http://******.craveonline.com/ratings/welterweight

http://******.craveonline.com/ratings/jr-middleweight

[PivotandRoll]

Supremacy means you clean out the division.

He has never been anywhere near.

What divisions has Manny cleaned out? Name the champions he beat!

[PivotandRoll]

The best highlight reel of any boxer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUX_gRTTS_E

I don't think so

[aboutfkntime]

Are you really suggesting the ability to beat bigger men in no way plays a part in a fighters greatness? That is absurd.

I am saying this..... keep your meaningless stats to yourself.

Ali beat bigger men, so have many great fighters that fought under the old divisional system.

So what ?

Because there are NOW 17 divisions in which to compete, of course the numbers will rise..... and btw, somebody was always going to tip-toe through the tulips to get xx divisional titles.

Now, do mean bigger men, like Margarito? Then no, of course not, we would have to be talking about divisional supremacy, so no..... beating that slow unskilled unranked plodder does not achieve anything when referencing greatness. Had Pac gone up and beaten the top JMW, then yes, of course it would count.

IF you can beat bigger men, then you will likely achieve divisional supremacy, and you will be judged on that.

You have to compare apples with apples man.

[PivotandRoll]

I am saying this..... keep your meaningless stats to yourself.

Ali beat bigger men, so have many great fighters that fought under the old divisional system.

So what ?

Because there are NOW 17 divisions in which to compete, of course the numbers will rise..... and btw, somebody was always going to tip-toe through the tulips to get xx divisional titles.

Now, do mean bigger men, like Margarito? Then no, of course not, we would have to be talking about divisional supremacy, so no..... beating that slow unskilled unranked plodder does not achieve anything when referencing greatness. Had Pac gone up and beaten the top JMW, then yes, of course it would count.

IF you can beat bigger men, then you will likely achieve divisional supremacy, and you will be judged on that.

You have to compare apples with apples man.

Haha I'm a not talking about 150 catchweights.....I'm talking Floyd/Oscar at 154....he gave Oscar every advantage in that fight...the weight meant something

Fights like that do prove something IMO. Duran coming up and beating Leonard only made it so more unbelievable

[TMTForever]

Haha I'm a not talking about 150 catchweights.....I'm talking Floyd/Oscar at 154....he gave Oscar every advantage in that fight...the weight meant something

Fights like that do prove something IMO. Duran coming up and beating Leonard only made it so more unbelievable

leaonard made duran quit in the ring was that unbelievable to you?

[mikemurni]

Wonder if mikemurni remembers the simulcast HBO did with Manny fighting Hectlor Valazquez and Morales fighting Raheem. Supposedly matching the winners. Manny got confused and fought yhe Raheem-Morales loser. And got hos balls massaged for it.

You are an idiot.. That fight was on LW division, and Pac was still SFW. And many are saying that Pac should move back down to FW.. dip*****..

Pac was actually the underdog in the 2nd fight against Morales... All these excuses about Raheem only coming out now because nobody expected he is going to kick the **** out of Morales after what happened in the first fight.. So yeah.. try harder..