Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao a Much Better Boxer Than Mayweather

[mrjoeblive]

Your a moron.. Pac was a lineal champ from Flyweight up to JWW thats a span of 8 divisions...Comparing that from Broner's move up from FW to WW is ******ed since Broner cherrypicked his way up to weighclasses, while Pac fought the best in those weight class..

And since you want to keep it real.. Floyd's fourth lineal championship was fought in a catchweight so go sVck on that...

Pac fought david diaz insted of juan "the baby bull" diaz who was the best at lw. Juan threw punches in bunches and it was always fun to watch him. Imo juan would have been a load for pac due to his furious combination punching and pacs lack of defense. The antidote to juans combination punching would be a very good counter puncher like jmm. I would have loved to see pac vs frietas or cassamayor, juan urango, raheem or a few other fighters. I don't blame pac for these fights not happening but I do blame roach and arum. I think pac would fight anyone but roach and arum won't allow it. Thats why his last 2 fights have been vs scrubs.

[mrjoeblive]

Who would have fought for it.. Pavlek moved up in weight.. Sergio vacated it...Paul Williams was in semi-retirement. Even Chavez Jr didnt want it. So may I ask, who do you think would have fought for it.. JMW is not exactly stacked at that time...

At least one of the fighters should have already fought at the wt class before a title fight. Pac nor margarito earned the right to go for the title. Thats one of the gift titles some rightfully complain about.

[aboutfkntime]

Matching skill to skill, Hall of Fame coach Freddie Roach says WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao is a better boxer than Floyd Mayweather Jr. Pacquiao faces Mayweather, with the WBC/WBA belts at stake as well, on May 2nd from the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Roach, who trains Pacquiao, says the Filipino boxer has been groomed over the years with careful teaching and instruction - while Mayweather more or less trains himself, says Roach. He feels Mayweather "has never had a coach."
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As has been the case for a number of years now.....

Roach says the dumbest shht

[hitking]

Your a moron.. Pac was a lineal champ from Flyweight up to JWW thats a span of 8 divisions...Comparing that from Broner's move up from FW to WW is ******ed since Broner cherrypicked his way up to weighclasses, while Pac fought the best in those weight class..

And since you want to keep it real.. Floyd's fourth lineal championship was fought in a catchweight so go sVck on that...

Pac was lineal champ at flyweight, but never fought the class of that weight range back in those days. A guy named Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson. Go look him up. I'm pretty sure you weren't following boxing back then.

At jr featherweight, he beat Ledwaba. That was arguably the deepest division in boxing in those days. Paulie Ayala was the lineal champ. You had guys like "Bones" Adams, Isreal Vaxquez, Leonard Dorin, Johnny Tapia, "Smoke" Gainer, and Oscar Larios (who Manny eventually fought after dragging him up two divisions) to name a few.

At the end of the day, nobody is ****'n on Manny. Just bringing to light that he's cherry picked, and had titles gift wrapped for him just like any other star attraction nowadays.

[GRUSTLER]

No.. Oscar came out of retirement and fought Mayorga as a tuneup.. That was the only fight he had before he fought Floyd...The lineal champ at that time was Kelly Pavlik if I am not mistaken..

You are wrong. Pavlik was the MW champion not at JM.

[hitking]

No.. Oscar came out of retirement and fought Mayorga as a tuneup.. That was the only fight he had before he fought Floyd...The lineal champ at that time was Kelly Pavlik if I am not mistaken..

Another P@ct@rd/Floyd hater exposes himself as a newbie or non-fight fan

[chargerhemi06]

Roach is right. The only person Floyd needs in his corner during a fight is his cutman. He doesn't listen to anybody.

[DeadLikeMe]

Roach is right. The only person Floyd needs in his corner during a fight is his cutman. He doesn't listen to anybody.

What advice does he really need to take when most of the time his corner just says, "he ain't ****" over and over?

[Derranged]

Roach is getting under Floyd Sr. skin, it is working, watch when he replies he is going to get get all emotional. But the problem with Roach tactic is it will not effect Floyd because like Roach said Floyd basically trains himself and just uses his uncle for mittwork if you watch the corner Floyd does what he wants to do he doesnt listen to any of the instructions there really isn't much technical instruction Roger or Floyd sr give anyway during fights.

But Roach is tripping hard, if Pacman was so smart at recognizing traps how come he didn't recognize JMM setting up the right hand off the back foot? If Pac was so smart he would have adapted to that right hand he had 4 fights to do so.

Pac is one of the strangest boxers ever, he is brilliant at taking away or adjusting to a jab, but he cannot avoid right hands, Floyd will just back up and unleash the right hand like Marquez did and Pac will walk into it every time.

If Pac is able to counter the right of floyd and counter him I will be blown away and shell shocked, I would throw cold water over my head if Pac is able to hang with Floyd in terms of boxing and out classes him. It would be unreal and almost unbelievable,

Also Floyd rarely uses the shoulder roll agianst a southpaw so that goes to show Roach hasn;t really figured out his style unless he is witholding that from the public.

What punch does Floyd knock Pac out with?

[Beercules]

What punch does Floyd knock Pac out with?

It'll be a stiff jab.