Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao a Much Better Boxer Than Mayweather

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What punch does Floyd knock Pac out with?

Jab to the shoulder.

[mastertech1985]

Pac was lineal champ at flyweight, but never fought the class of that weight range back in those days. A guy named Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson. Go look him up. I'm pretty sure you weren't following boxing back then.

At jr featherweight, he beat Ledwaba. That was arguably the deepest division in boxing in those days. Paulie Ayala was the lineal champ. You had guys like "Bones" Adams, Isreal Vaxquez, Leonard Dorin, Johnny Tapia, "Smoke" Gainer, and Oscar Larios (who Manny eventually fought after dragging him up two divisions) to name a few.

At the end of the day, nobody is ****'n on Manny. Just bringing to light that he's cherry picked, and had titles gift wrapped for him just like any other star attraction nowadays.

I hate we never got to see him fight 2 sharp, Masamori Takayama

Junior Featherweight and junior welterweight were the deepest divisions back then and my two favorites.....you can tell when people didn't follow boxing pre-2010 when they think Manny fought everyone. 112-122 was stacked with top shelf talent.....before he fought Barrera, I was hoping he had a fight with Israel Vazquez or Oscar Larios....the top ten at 122 was filled with current champs, former champs and very good contenders




Manny is a great fighter, but he and Margarito @ a catchweight for a title, in a weight class neither were ranked in the top 100 was the worst example of a promoter paying for a title for his two fighters, when their were more worthy contenders


Lightweight was very deep too...David Diaz was the weakest titleholder....there was Casamayor, Freitas, Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell, Julio Diaz, Jesus Chavez.

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I hate we never got to see him fight 2 sharp, Masamori Takayama

Junior Featherweight and junior welterweight were the deepest divisions back then and my two favorites.....you can tell when people didn't follow boxing pre-2010 when they think Manny fought everyone. 112-122 was stacked with top shelf talent.....before he fought Barrera, I was hoping he had a fight with Israel Vazquez or Oscar Larios....the top ten at 122 was filled with current champs, former champs and very good contenders




Manny is a great fighter, but he and Margarito @ a catchweight for a title, in a weight class neither were ranked in the top 100 was the worst example of a promoter paying for a title for his two fighters, when their were more worthy contenders


Lightweight was very deep too...David Diaz was the weakest titleholder....there was Casamayor, Freitas, Juan Diaz, Nate Campbell, Julio Diaz, Jesus Chavez.

I don't really hold it against Manny that he never fought Too Sharp because there's no money in the flyweight division. And there's no demand in America to see any of those fights.

I don't really hold his run at 22 against him either. Mainly because he moved up and immediately fought Barerra, who was consensus P4P. Then he fought JMM, who Barrera and Morales had ducked. Then he fought Morales, who completely outclassed Ayala, who was the class of that deep jr featherweight division.

Like I said in my initial post. My intention wasn't to **** on Manny. It was really to **** on some of his clueless "fans" that have no clue of what the boxing landscape was prior to Manny fighting Oscar. And becoming the guy that was gonna whip that douche bag (Floyd) that acted a ass in the build up to his fight with Oscar, which was probably the last fight they watched.

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It'll be a stiff jab.

Jab to the shoulder.

I was thinking a hard jab to the body but the shoulder might do it.

[mastertech1985]

I don't really hold it against Manny that he never fought Too Sharp because there's no money in the flyweight division. And there's no demand in America to see any of those fights.

I don't really hold his run at 22 against him either. Mainly because he moved up and immediately fought Barerra, who was consensus P4P. Then he fought JMM, who Barrera and Morales had ducked. Then he fought Morales, who completely outclassed Ayala, who was the class of that deep jr featherweight division.

Like I said in my initial post. My intention wasn't to **** on Manny. It was really to **** on some of his clueless "fans" that have no clue of what the boxing landscape was prior to Manny fighting Oscar. And becoming the guy that was gonna whip that douche bag (Floyd) that acted a ass in the build up to his fight with Oscar, which was probably the last fight they watched.

I don't hold those things against him either, every fight we want as fans cant happen but Man...my fingers were crossed...I was in high school back then smh

[PivotandRoll]

Another P@ct@rd/Floyd hater exposes himself as a newbie or non-fight fan

Are you talking about me? Why because I didn't feel the need to google the answer and just asked it honestly? Oh sorry I don't have endless information about Floyd's titles... considering they mean **** all in boxing and are meaning less and less with all the diamond and super champions walking around....

haha you weren't talking to me....my bad

[mikemurni]

Another P@ct@rd/Floyd hater exposes himself as a newbie or non-fight fan

Kiss my ass newbie..I was posting way before you did.. So go jump on the bandwagon

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Kiss my ass newbie..I was posting way before you did.. So go jump on the bandwagon

Sorry, never even looked at at your post count. Guess you're not a newbie. You're just a pure D, babbling f.uck'n idiot. I apologize.

[mikemurni]

Pac was lineal champ at flyweight, but never fought the class of that weight range back in those days. A guy named Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson. Go look him up. I'm pretty sure you weren't following boxing back then.

At jr featherweight, he beat Ledwaba. That was arguably the deepest division in boxing in those days. Paulie Ayala was the lineal champ. You had guys like "Bones" Adams, Isreal Vaxquez, Leonard Dorin, Johnny Tapia, "Smoke" Gainer, and Oscar Larios (who Manny eventually fought after dragging him up two divisions) to name a few.

At the end of the day, nobody is ****'n on Manny. Just bringing to light that he's cherry picked, and had titles gift wrapped for him just like any other star attraction nowadays.

Because Johnson moved up in weight, *****.. Stop revising history.. Looking at boxrec doesnt make you an expert..lol..The lineal championship at flyweight is probably the clearest lineage among divsion because there was never a time wherein the number 1 &2 figters fought to get that lineage..Its always the champion losing the title to another fighter.. so therefore the lineage was never vacated and is always continuous.. So go suck on that..

And Pac fought Sanchez to unify the belts after Ledwaba *****.. So dont think he didnt fight the best.. And lol on Tapia and Larios.. Yeah like he would fight those guys to pass on a shot of a lifetime against Barrera..


And since you want to diminish Pac's credential.. How about Floyd's lineage at WW..hey.. He didnt exactly fought the best fighter in that division..Do you want me to elaborate?

[PivotandRoll]

Kiss my ass newbie..I was posting way before you did.. So go jump on the bandwagon

Oh...were you....oh I guess that makes you an authority on boxing...I mean you registered and then typed some words....well done..... I been watching boxing for 9 years now...I'm no newbie...and I was banned for calling out the mods...I've been posting here five years....

And Bandwagons? Nope...I don't do them.....

Nonito's bandwagon? Nope, told everyone while they laughed Rigo was gonna whoop him.

Lucas M? This one was funny, Garcia beat him so easily until he gassed in the 10th,11th.

Porter? Nope.....Thurman? Nope, Brook will do the same to him.

Don't impose your bull**** on to me sir.