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  • jcj0427
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    #51
    Originally posted by PeasantCrusha
    Cotto's losses at 154 to naturally bigger fighters are not a concern for me. Besides, Cotto himself said he was not 100% for Trout fight. Why not pick one of Cotto's losses to the HGH brothers or his loss to Capetillo's prodigy?


    When you are limited to downgrading my boy Cotto via the Trout fight at 154, or his losses to 3 SUSPECT opponents... I can only smile. That HGH is the shizzit doe.
    Cotto was not 100% that night against Trout?? but Maravilla sure dam was when he fought Cotto huh? LOL! YOU CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. In your mind you probably think Cottos undefeated right? You Cotto fans are something else.

    The Maravilla, Foreman, and Margarito wins are suspect as they come. Why do you think they call your boy the handicap killa?

    When you get over your fanboy d1kryding ass ways maybe then you can talk boxing along with the rest of us.

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      #52
      Cotto deserves a pass.
      His legacy is sealed

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        #53
        Originally posted by Cinci Champ
        nothing wrong with being fans of your national fighters no different then rooting for the local football team as a matter of fact i find it shocking just how many people in america dont take the side of their own fighter
        Def agree. But these Cotto fa9s take it to the next level. They are very biased and one-sided and act like Cotto can do no wrong.

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          #54
          Originally posted by PK3434
          It would be a huge money fight. Cotto could possibly make even more against GGG than against canelo since the purse split would be highly in his favor. This is not about money. It's about cotto knowing he would get brutalized and dominated.
          If Canelo-Cotto does 1 million buys, 50-50 of 1 million buys is $16,500,000 for each (For mathematicians out there that will do the math and see it doesn't add up; I subtracted the half that goes to cable network) @ $65 per PPV, not even including gate rev or PR/Mexico TV deals. If Cotto-GGG does 300-400k which is what I suspect it would do, Cotto taking 80% of that(best case scenario) of 450k PPV buys, that's $11.5 million. No way K2 agree to 80%, that's just best case scenario. They would probably go with 70-30 at most and would push for 65-35. So no, unless you are doing some unrealistic scenarios in your head, Cotto does not make more money fighting GGG than he does fighting Canelo, even if GGG's team bend down to a 80-20 split vs a 50-50 split with Canelo.

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            #55
            They already said they would do 20:80 against Cotto, can't find the link anymore but i am pretty sure about it. Also i think you underestimate GGG's drawing a bit, i think they would easily do 500k buys, that way Cotto would make even more than against Canelo. Also Canelo is out of the picture for now.

            I totally understand that Cotto isn't fighting GGG and i will not be pushing for the fight as a GGG fan. Cotto will get destroyed and he has a 3 fight contract and that fight against GGG could end his career, how is he going to fulfill his contract then? Just vacate the belt and everything is fine, have your 3 goodbye fights against Bradley or whoever.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Jubei
              They already said they would do 20:80 against Cotto, can't find the link anymore but i am pretty sure about it. Also i think you underestimate GGG's drawing a bit, i think they would easily do 500k buys, that way Cotto would make even more than against Canelo. Also Canelo is out of the picture for now.

              I totally understand that Cotto isn't fighting GGG and i will not be pushing for the fight as a GGG fan. Cotto will get destroyed and he has a 3 fight contract and that fight against GGG could end his career, how is he going to fulfill his contract then? Just vacate the belt and everything is fine, have your 3 goodbye fights against Bradley or whoever.
              Cotto-Martinez was the much more popular fight, with lots of buzz and lots of support from Latino-Americans. That PPV did 350k.

              How does a lesser known B-side in GGG generate an extra 150k buys more than Martinez? That's just not going to happen. You are overestimating GGG's drawing potential, who has never been on PPV. At least Martinez had done 500k vs Chavez Jr.

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                #57
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Cotto isn't a coward, just wealthy enough to be able to afford the luxury of deciding whether he wants to be a warrior or not in a situation like this.

                Money in the bank does not buy you a coward-free card. As the Middleweight Champion of the world, it is his duty to defend and face challengers. It is the ethics of boxing. If he wants to keep playing the Diva, he should vacate the title.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  Cotto-Martinez was the much more popular fight, with lots of buzz and lots of support from Latino-Americans. That PPV did 350k.

                  How does a lesser known B-side in GGG generate an extra 150k buys more than Martinez? That's just not going to happen. You are overestimating GGG's drawing potential, who has never been on PPV. At least Martinez had done 500k vs Chavez Jr.
                  Although I dont think it will happen, I could see Cotto-GGG doing more than Cotto-Martinez for the simple fact people are waiting anxiously to see what GGG can do with a "real" opponent. Add the GGG hype to it and it could very well exceed 500k.

                  Chavez Jr vs Martinez surpassed Cottos numbers mainly because Chavez Jr has a huge Mexican following and Martinez was seen as his first "real" test.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    Cotto-Martinez was the much more popular fight, with lots of buzz and lots of support from Latino-Americans. That PPV did 350k.

                    How does a lesser known B-side in GGG generate an extra 150k buys more than Martinez? That's just not going to happen. You are overestimating GGG's drawing potential, who has never been on PPV. At least Martinez had done 500k vs Chavez Jr.
                    GGG much more in the media and the hype about him is miles bigger than Martinez. People are talking about GGG everywhere while not many were talking about Sergio even though he had a good run. Still a fan of Maravilla but he never got the exposure GGG is getting.

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                      #60
                      Also prior to the Martinez fight Cotto lost to Mayweather and later Trout, then fought an overmatched Delvin Rodriguez. Wasn't much hype going for Cotto towards the matchup, now he is kinda "rejuvenated", just won the middleweight crown, so everyone wants to see how he matches up against the top guy at middleweight, the god of war, the beloved GGG.

                      I myself don't need to see that fight, since it might end Cotto's career and i am very sure this fight isnt happening anyway. But Cotto has to vacate that belt, no longer keep it hostage.

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