Comments Thread For: Ellerbe, Koncz Trade Verbal Shots Over $5 Million Fine

[megadeth]

mayweather walk away from the negotiation when pacquiao offers 3 weeks cut-off. it is exasperating because floyd has agreed to a 2 weeks cut-off when the talks has begun. floyd has a diva fit and take away the 2 weeks cut-off and changes it to no cut-off date.

the best way to test for ped is year round testing.
arent you su****ious that floyd had signed this fight 2 months before the actual fight where he could signed it in december.

If you feel Pac did the right thing, why do you need to lie? Who walked away again? Floyd wanted no cutoff, compromised and moved to a 2 week cutoff. Pac and his team started saying "anytime, anywhere", moved to 30 days, got caught lying and then stopped at 24 days. Floyd would only accept a 2 wk cutoff and Arum/Pac walked away and signed to fight Clottey.

Funny, so you su****ious of the guy that was actually doing some sort of OSDT drug testing, but the guy who declined OSDT, lied about why he couldn't do it & when, asked for cutoffs and waited until he got KTFO before he agreed, you feel that guy is 100% above reproach huh?


The Pacquiao camp blamed Mayweather for his unwillingness to move off his desire for random testing until the fight.

Mayweather disputed that on Thursday.

"Before the mediation, my team proposed a 14-day, no blood testing window leading up to the fight. But it was rejected," Mayweather said. "I am still proposing the 14-day window but he is still unwilling to agree to it, even though this is obviously a fair compromise on my part as I wanted the testing to be up until the fight and he wanted a 30 day cutoff. The truth is he just doesn't want to take the tests.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4806180

[Robbie Barrett]

Why are the ******s that have been saying USADA is in Mayweathers pocket arguing about this? It doesn't matter. If USADA is in Mayweathers pocket they'd cover up a positive test.

[Rath]

Koncz said "Team Mayweather rejected Pac's request for a 5 mill dollar US penalty if either boxer comes up positive for a banned substance in USADA drug test.

What it meant:

this is an additional penalty request (besides those penalty under the WADA Code) in Floyd vs Pac contract.
it applies to both of them. But was rejected by Floyd's Team

where in the article does it says Koncz don't want the 4 yrs ban and replacing them with 5 mill dollar US penalty in stead?

Ellerbe said "USADA operates under WADA code and either fighter testing positive for PEDS would ban them from doing for 4 yrs."

What it meant:

Wada conde has a penalty in it's rule if one comes positive for banned substance and that is 4 yrs ban from boxing.

It is Wada Code and not on Floyd vs Pac contract agreement.

Questions:

Can WADA impose the 4 yrs ban on a professional boxer if Floyd or Pac use the loophole that says it is not in our contract?

Can the commission still allowed any of them to fight even if WADA banned them not to?

Is WADA code by default already included in the contract between Floyd vs Pac?

Ellerbe said " We have no plan in limiting the damages if Manny tested positive"

What it meant:

Ellerbe evaded what Koncz accused them off and that is they rejected the 5 million dollar penalty.

Note he said if Pac tested positive not if both of them tested positive.

since he said they have no plan in limiting the penalty to just 5 million, did they requested a bigger amount of penalty in the contract or not?

Ellerbe said "they must be worried if they are bringing this up.

what it meant:

planting the seed of su****ion, the people who demanded a penalty of 5 million dollar applicable to both fighters is being suspected by no other than the one who rejected it in the first place and did not make any attempt to counter the request with bigger amount.

Ellerbe said "Essentially what they are trying to do is put a 5 million price tag if Pac tested positive. It is awfully su****ious to me"

What it meant:

again planting su****ion by saying that the 5 million price tag is considered small for being caught with banned substance yet again did not offer any bigger amount of penalty than the 5 million Pac camp requested.

Present your case now Hanz

telll me again where did this people owned me?

[Brickyardigan]

telll me again where did this people owned me?

DUMB DUMB you just posted and highlighted the quote where Ellerbe says "Essentially they are putting a 5 million price tag on Manny's dirty tests if he come up positive".. COME ON SON..

[Eagle Eye]

Lol at brickyard. Read again.

[brickcityboxing]

PAC gets popped ... They offer floyd 70/30 if he doesn't sue and the take the fight to Macau using vada or maybe no testing at all... Floyd tells them to go screw. Biggest fight ever falls apart. Wild claims like Floyd paid USADA to tamper with the results etc... Are hurled around for decades to come.... THE END.

^^^ I hope that's happening in an alternate universe and not this one... Haha can you imagine

[elishua F]

how does floyd rejecting the $5mill dollar fine says hes dirty or su****ious. .if hes still getting tested regardless

and i guess pacs team still dont comprehend what B SIDE means.. it means you sit you a$$ down, speak when spoken to.

you dont call ANY shots you are a peasant. beat floyd then you make boss moves.

in 2009 manny requested a $10million fine for violating the contract weight limit and floyd agreed..but that was when this was 50-50

this is not 50-50 no more.

[Brickyardigan]

Koncz said "Team Mayweather rejected Pac's request for a 5 mill dollar US penalty if either boxer comes up positive for a banned substance in USADA drug test.

What it meant:

this is an additional penalty request (besides those penalty under the WADA Code) in Floyd vs Pac contract.
it applies to both of them. But was rejected by Floyd's Team

where in the article does it says Koncz don't want the 4 yrs ban and replacing them with 5 mill dollar US penalty in stead?

Ellerbe said "USADA operates under WADA code and either fighter testing positive for PEDS would ban them from doing for 4 yrs."

What it meant:

Wada conde has a penalty in it's rule if one comes positive for banned substance and that is 4 yrs ban from boxing.

It is Wada Code and not on Floyd vs Pac contract agreement.

Questions:

Can WADA impose the 4 yrs ban on a professional boxer if Floyd or Pac use the loophole that says it is not in our contract?

Can the commission still allowed any of them to fight even if WADA banned them not to?

Is WADA code by default already included in the contract between Floyd vs Pac?

Ellerbe said " We have no plan in limiting the damages if Manny tested positive"

What it meant:

Ellerbe evaded what Koncz accused them off and that is they rejected the 5 million dollar penalty.

Note he said if Pac tested positive not if both of them tested positive.

since he said they have no plan in limiting the penalty to just 5 million, did they requested a bigger amount of penalty in the contract or not?

Ellerbe said "they must be worried if they are bringing this up.

what it meant:

planting the seed of su****ion, the people who demanded a penalty of 5 million dollar applicable to both fighters is being suspected by no other than the one who rejected it in the first place and did not make any attempt to counter the request with bigger amount.

Ellerbe said "Essentially what they are trying to do is put a 5 million price tag if Pac tested positive. It is awfully su****ious to me"
What it meant:

again planting su****ion by saying that the 5 million price tag is considered small for being caught with banned substance yet again did not offer any bigger amount of penalty than the 5 million Pac camp requested.

Present your case now Hanz

EVERYONE READ THE BOLD. DUMB DUMB RATH OWNED HIMSELF

When the fight gets cancelled and a billion dollars is lost, YOU CAN SUE DAMAGES FOR THAT PRICE.

[MDPopescu]

telll me again where did this people owned me?

... I don't know...

... But let them go to the court...

[MrRolltide91]

Forget the 5 mill penalty.

Whoever test positive, their image and legacy will be tarnished.

That's way worse.